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Date:      Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:57:55 -0800
From:      Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>
To:        net@arrishq.net, Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Vote: making wayland=on default
Message-ID:  <d7d5d2b8-ee77-d44a-7170-99ca281bded5@nomadlogic.org>
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On 12/20/2017 11:49, net@arrishq.net wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Johannes Lundberg wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Personally I see no reason not to make it default on, even with
>> flavors coming up. For any Desktop user (as well as embedded devices
>> like IVI-systems and whatnot), Wayland is the future. There's no
>> escaping that.
>
> and why does everyone think a Unix should be run on a desktop only ?

I suspect you might be a little confused - no one is saying that Unix is 
going to be "desktop only" - this is in regards to where graphical 
interfaces is moving for Unix like operating systems in general.
> And the "future", well, lot of companies are going to say "Cloud 
> first" ;) is the future so the next thing-of-the-day will replace the 
> today-thing-of-the-day to add what's required then and we're busy 
> replacing things with the newest shiny technology because someone has 
> to re-invent the wheel another time.
>
> Personally I don't see much problems rebuilding some ports if I really 
> want Wayland, but as long as some apps run on some RasPi's and 
> embedded devices without a display using plain X11 is the way and 
> Wayland adds just overhead.
>
how does adding support, by default, for Wayland in some graphical 
binaries add overhead to your system at run time?

no one is saying that this will supplant Xorg, but rather this will make 
it easier for more people in the FreeBSD community to actively test and 
dogfood Wayland.  the alternative is for FreeBSD to continue to be an 
afterthought by freedesktop and Wayland community which doesn't seem 
like a good long-term strategy IMHO.

-pete

-- 
Pete Wright
pete@nomadlogic.org
@nomadlogicLA




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