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Date:      Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:06:10 +0930
From:      Shane Ambler <FreeBSD@ShaneWare.Biz>
To:        CK <>,
Subject:   Re: X+webkit = Disgraceful
Message-ID:  <6a58eda5-748a-cd64-6f77-3cd53f1c8eb3@ShaneWare.Biz>
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On 09/09/2016 18:49, CK wrote:
> 252M    .
> 7.6M    ./bash
> 200k    ./gnome
>  31M    ./gnome2
> 1.6M    ./gnome3
>   1M    ./hunspell
> 1.0M    ./jpeg8d
>  13M    ./perl
>  10M    ./python
>  27M    ./xorg
> I just fetched the recursive ports for:
> x11/xorg-minimal
> x11/xfd x11/xset x11/xterm
> x11-fonts/bdftopcf x11-fonts/pcf2bdf
> x11-wm/vtwm www/webkit-gtk2
> And that doesn't even include a web-browser

> 250+ MB, 36+ hours of downloading, and I still
> can't even view the WWW, graphically.  It's just
> fucking disgusting.  In 1996, I didn't even have
> a hard drive that big, and my kernel was about
> 1/2 MB, RAM was 16MB, FreeBSD took about 16MB of
> disk space, and I could install everything from a
> bunch of floppies, and Xwindow + graphical browser
> was just a minor addition - maybe a few MB at most.
> TODAY THAN THEN (with the exception of server-side

And you haven't even discovered the joys of compiling that crap
yourself. Webkit really shows off the wonder of C++ and templates, the
various webkit source tarballs may weigh in between 5 and 18 MB but you
will want multiple GB of RAM to compile each of the ports that is based
on the same source code.


what makes it even better is that you get all of these installed because
the five apps you want to use each want to use a different webkit port.

And if you hadn't worked it out - only simple apps actually use the
webkit ports, mostly for petty things like a help window, the big boys
like firefox and chromium have their own source and don't use the webkit

FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing

Shane Ambler

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