Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:06:10 +0930 From: Shane Ambler <FreeBSD@ShaneWare.Biz> To: CK <un_x@earthlink.net>, questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: X+webkit = Disgraceful Message-ID: <6a58eda5-748a-cd64-6f77-3cd53f1c8eb3@ShaneWare.Biz> In-Reply-To: <E1biHyX-0006t8-Pb@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <E1biHyX-0006t8-Pb@elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
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On 09/09/2016 18:49, CK wrote: > 252M . > 7.6M ./bash > 200k ./gnome > 31M ./gnome2 > 1.6M ./gnome3 > 1M ./hunspell > 1.0M ./jpeg8d > 13M ./perl > 10M ./python > 27M ./xorg > > I just fetched the recursive ports for: > > x11/xorg-minimal > x11/xfd x11/xset x11/xterm > x11-fonts/bdftopcf x11-fonts/pcf2bdf > x11-wm/vtwm www/webkit-gtk2 > > And that doesn't even include a web-browser > 250+ MB, 36+ hours of downloading, and I still > can't even view the WWW, graphically. It's just > fucking disgusting. In 1996, I didn't even have > a hard drive that big, and my kernel was about > 1/2 MB, RAM was 16MB, FreeBSD took about 16MB of > disk space, and I could install everything from a > bunch of floppies, and Xwindow + graphical browser > was just a minor addition - maybe a few MB at most. > And guess what? THE WEB DOESN'T LOOK ANY BETTER > TODAY THAN THEN (with the exception of server-side And you haven't even discovered the joys of compiling that crap yourself. Webkit really shows off the wonder of C++ and templates, the various webkit source tarballs may weigh in between 5 and 18 MB but you will want multiple GB of RAM to compile each of the ports that is based on the same source code. www/webkit-gtk2 www/webkit-gtk3 www/webkit2-gtk3 www/webkit-qt4 www/webkit-qt5 what makes it even better is that you get all of these installed because the five apps you want to use each want to use a different webkit port. And if you hadn't worked it out - only simple apps actually use the webkit ports, mostly for petty things like a help window, the big boys like firefox and chromium have their own source and don't use the webkit ports. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler
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