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Date:      Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:38:23 -0400
From:      "James Gill" <gill@topsecret.net>
To:        <freebsd-chat@freebsd.org>, "'Freebsd-Security@Freebsd. Org'" <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        "Harry M. Leitzell" <Harry_M_Leitzell@cmu.edu>
Subject:   OpenBSD (FW: Please do not take this above statement too lightly, since the project is typically not in strong financial health.)
Message-ID:  <NDBBJDFMIMOCFNNCEKADEEDMCPAA.gill@topsecret.net>

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Well, Harry, I guess you were right.

Nevermind, go back to your chores. (cores?)

--gill

-----Original Message-----
From: Theo de Raadt [mailto:deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Please do not take this above statement too lightly,
since
the project is typically not in strong financial health.


Not in your life.

Sorry.  You better read up on history.

http://theos.com/deraadt/coremail

And search archives.

>
> Hi Theo.
>
> You don't know me, I'm just a (relatively new) *BSD user making his
> way in the world out of the clutches of a microsoft-dominated
> landscape.
>
> While exploring the *BSD community I learned of the different
projects
> (Free, Open, Net) and wondered aloud why these projects were not
more
> closely aligned.  When I read on your website that the project was
in
> grave danger due to lack of funding I became concerned because in my
> security work I've heard OpenBSD highly regarded and I anticipate
that
> the future can only bring further improvements.
>
> My concern lead me to make some posts in the freebsd-security
mailing
> list where I made the following comment and recived the response
from
> one Jordan K. Hubbard:
> ------------------------------------------------
> > I dunno, perhaps this is an opportune time to try to coordinate
the
> > projects?
>
> It's never been a question of money, coordination, or really
anything
> at all to do with engineering.  It has everything to do with one or
> more individuals volunteering the time necessary for making
something
> like this happen.
>
> That also goes for just about every other obvious idea or clear
> shortcoming that one might note for FreeBSD - if it's obvious or
> clear, chances are excellent that it's been both suggested many
times
> and failed many times due to lack of this one key missing
ingredient.
> :)
>
> - Jordan
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> And before I go and open my big mouth and say how excited I would be
> to do My Part, I wanted to know what your views were on the
situation?
> How willing is OpenBSD to try to coordinate it's strengths with the
> FreeBSD project and vice versa to implement the best of both?
>
> regards,
> --gill
>
>




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