Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:28:44 -0600 From: Dan Allen <danallen46@airwired.net> To: Brian <brian@brianwhalen.net>, Randy Pratt <bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> Cc: Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content Message-ID: <B1F9E128-A66F-4A5A-BBA1-A016F4ECDF77@airwired.net> In-Reply-To: <48BF23D3.2070509@brianwhalen.net> References: <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net> <20080903191454.GA15376@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <DC1CA362-09F3-4D85-BE20-776A133FD3D6@airwired.net> <48BF23D3.2070509@brianwhalen.net>
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On 3 Sep 2008, at 5:54 PM, Brian wrote: > I always do the minimal install over the net. I got X working in 7- > stable by doing the minimal install, then the following. > > pkg_add -r xorg > pkg_add -r portupgrade > portupgrade -NRP kde > pkg_add -r tightvnc. On 3 Sep 2008, at 5:59 PM, Randy Pratt wrote: > The ports/packages are actually not part of FreeBSD but are third- > party > applications. I've often thought that the packages on the > installation > disks should really be split to a separate project which produces > package disks. This would lessen the burden on the Release Engineers > and perhaps the cycle time between releases. It should also be > noted that the useful life of a package is limited and outdated very > quickly. Hey, these great comments bring up a different solution, which may be the way to go. It is simple: have a few of the common apps that are net-centric (like firefox) be simply calls to pkg_add -r in the installer. No ports databases, no packages on the discs. A few packages may be useful (like perl) to someone without net access, but many need the net to be useful. I often forget about pkg_add -r because I build everything from source myself, but just a prompted dialog offering a few of the most common and popular apps like: * kde or gnome * firefox or xxx_browser * vnc * openoffice via pkg_add -r might be a very simple solution (no disk impact to speak of) and perhaps could even be determined by a look at which pkgs are installed the most from server logs (not dynamically, but just as a way of offering common pkgs). Dan
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