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Date:      Tue, 05 Jan 2010 10:28:51 -0800
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Stanislav Sedov <stas@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r201477 - head/games/fortune/datfiles
Message-ID:  <4B4384E3.2080600@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <201001040916.o049GZ1Y013061@svn.freebsd.org>
References:  <201001040916.o049GZ1Y013061@svn.freebsd.org>

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First off, thanks for sorting these, that's a step in the right
direction. :)  However, a few quibbles. First, our rule is that
anything which might offend someone belongs in fortunes-o, and
political quotes are always in the category of "might offend someone."
(FWIW, neither of these are offensive to me, I'm just pointing out the
general procedure.)

Second, while it's clear at this point in time who these people are,
and what the context is, read through the fortune files sometime and
try to place who some of the people referenced are, when the quote was
relevant, etc. At minimum the quotes should be dated (IMO).

Finally, let's pretend for a second that this is an international
project, and not assume that titles like "defense secretary" are
meaningful everywhere. :)

Oh, and in the Rumsfeld quote you have "there're" twice, and in the
actual quote it's spelled out both times, "there are."

I would change the citation in the first quote to read:

		-- United States Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld
		   12 February 2002
Personally I don't see the need to mention the context, but if you do
you could add "... 2002, On the invasion of Iraq"

For the second, you could do something like:

		-- Daniel Fass, Chairman of United States President
		   Barack Obama's financial-industry fundraising party
I'll leave finding a date for that quote up to you. :)


Doug

Stanislav Sedov wrote:
> Author: stas
> Date: Mon Jan  4 09:16:35 2010
> New Revision: 201477
> URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/201477
> 
> Log:
>   - Add two particulary interesting quotes from the past decade.
> 
> Modified:
>   head/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes
> 
> Modified: head/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes
> ==============================================================================
> --- head/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes	Mon Jan  4 09:02:39 2010	(r201476)
> +++ head/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes	Mon Jan  4 09:16:35 2010	(r201477)
> @@ -1604,6 +1604,13 @@ friends and family, and then justify thi
>  for doing it."
>  		-- Bruce Feirstein, "Nice Guys Sleep Alone"
>  %
> +	As we know, there are known knowns.  There are things we know we
> +know.  We also know there are known unknowns.  That is to say, we know
> +there're some things we do not know.  But there're also unknown unknowns;
> +the ones we don't know we don't know."
> +		-- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld,
> +		   about the invasion to Iraq.
> +%
>  	At a recent meeting in Snowmass, Colorado, a participant from
>  Los Angeles fainted from hyperoxygenation, and we had to hold his head
>  under the exhaust of a bus until he revived.
> @@ -46372,6 +46379,13 @@ constitutions, displaying the utmost imp
>  overturning everything.
>  		-- Plato, "Republic", 370 B.C.
>  %
> +The investment community feels very putupon.  They feel there is no
> +reason why they shouldn't earn $1 million to $200 million a year,
> +and they don't want to be held responsible for the global financial
> +meltdown.
> +		-- Daniel Fass, chairman of Obama's
> +		financial-industry fundraising party
> +%
>  The IQ of the group is the lowest IQ of a member of
>  the group divided by the number of people in the group.
>  %
> 


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