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Date:      Sat, 25 Oct 2003 13:48:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:      peter lageotakes <plageotakes@yahoo.com>
To:        Alex de Kruijff <freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl>, Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
Cc:        advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Learning to Walk: A Linux User Migrates to FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <20031025204839.39160.qmail@web14609.mail.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20031025183803.GD4914@dds.nl>

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--- Alex de Kruijff <freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 08:49:25AM +0300, Giorgos
> Keramidas wrote:
> > On 2003-10-24 14:47, Alex de Kruijff
> <freebsd@akruijff.dds.nl> wrote:
> > >On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 07:17:20PM -0700, peter
> lageotakes wrote:
> > >> This is the follow up (part 2) to Babe in the
> Woods: A
> > >> Linux User Migrates to FreeBSD.
> > >>
> > >> Interesting article. However I disagree with
> the views
> > >> about handbook being written at the admin.
> level (and
> > >> more). The article could be more positive.
> > >>
> > >>
>
http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=269
> > >
> > > I say this is prity positive considering his
> previous article about
> > > 5.0.  I feel that he gives _his_ fair point of
> view on FreeBSD.
> > > Strainge that top didn' run, i didn't had this
> happening to me.
> > 
> > This is very likely a result of more serious
> problems with the /dev
> > directory of the installation (like the missing
> /dev/null described in
> > the article).
> > 
> > I'll agree that it is a rather fair article,
> despite my reservations
> > regarding the problems described.  I've installed
> 4.8-REL a lot of times
> > but didn't have any of the same problems.  The
> fact that someone else
> > did, which is probably unsurprising for newcomers
> to FreeBSD, doesn't
> > mean that I'm super smart or that the authors of
> the article are silly
> > either.  The installation process depends on very
> scrutinous attention
> > to details whose significance isn't yet very
> apparent when one is a
> > FreeBSD newbie.  This is what the documentation
> team is trying to help
> > about by writing the Handbook and the rest of the
> docs.
> > 
> > Let's hope that the quality of the existing
> documentation and the future
> > efforts of the doc team make problematic cases
> like the one described in
> > the article less and less frequent :-)
> 
> Its not just the doc team who arre responcible for
> the succes of
> FreeBSD. Its the whole team, including amoung
> others, the doc-team,
> developers, core and the users on the lists
> (esecialy those on
> questions, newbie, stable and current).
> 
> -- 
> Alex
> 
> Articles based on solutions that I use:
>
http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/


The install process in the handbook is very detailed. 
I dont believe that is an issue (imho).  One aspect I
think might need a small amount of clairification is
release, stable and new technology relase (etc).  That
seems to be a small stumbling block for new users to
FreeBSD.  

Pete

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