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Date:      Thu, 20 Dec 2018 12:09:48 -0500
From:      Scott Ballantyne <boyvalue@gmail.com>
To:        FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: pkg upgrade firefox hoses mate
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On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 11:46 AM Carmel NY <carmel_ny@outlook.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 10:58:47 -0500, Scott Ballantyne stated:
>
> >On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:26 AM Arthur Chance <freebsd@qeng-ho.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 20/12/2018 15:06, Scott Ballantyne wrote:
> >> > Good morning all,
> >> > This is on a 10.4-release-p9 freebsd system.
> >>
> >> 10.4 hit end of life at the end of October so there's no guarantee any
> >> port will work with it. You need to upgrade to 11 or 12.
> >>
> >>
> >Yes, so I gather. However, I would draw a distinction between a port
> >'failing to work' and
> >a port destroying a necessary function of a previously working system...
>
> To paraphrase something I once heard a speaker say, "It is not the OS's job
> to stop a user from shooting themselves in the foot, but rather to deliver
> the bullet with a high degree of accuracy."
>
>
I don't disagree with that sentiment in the general case, but when 'user
friendly enhancements'
are supplied such as binary updates, they should be user friendly.

More than once, I have crashed a system with an upgrade/update.
>
> If you have the option, do a "fresh" install of FreeBSD 12. The
> "freebsd-update" program will leave you with more problems.
>
>
So far you have been on target with that observation...



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