Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:34:40 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> To: Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Garrett Wollman <wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, Joel Dahl <joel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: tmux(1) in base Message-ID: <20090921163440.GC21946@elvis.mu.org> In-Reply-To: <20090921163027.GA24651@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20090921112657.GW95398@hoeg.nl> <200909211237.n8LCbkxV017364@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <200909211309.n8LD9eTr017654@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20090921160955.GZ21946@elvis.mu.org> <4AB7A708.5080209@FreeBSD.org> <20090921161946.GA21946@elvis.mu.org> <20090921163027.GA24651@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
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* Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> [090921 09:30] wrote: > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 09:19:46AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > * Joel Dahl <joel@FreeBSD.org> [090921 09:17] wrote: > > > Alfred Perlstein skrev: > > > >* Garrett Wollman <wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> [090921 06:10] wrote: > > > >>In article <20090921130346.GY21946@elvis.mu.org> you write: > > > >> > > > >>>I think he already explained that it's supposedly much better than > > > >>>window(1) with a kinder license than screen(1). > > > >>> > > > >>>We really ought to ship with a screen(1)-like program. > > > >>sudo pkg_add -r screen > > > >> > > > >>Problem solved. > > > > > > > >WORKS GREAT ESP WHEN NETWORK IS DOWN AND SOMEONE NEEDS MY HELP. > > > > > > > >WORKS AWESOME ON REALLY OLD MACHINES WHERE PACKAGES NO LONGER > > > >EXIST. > > > > > > > >Note: Apple, which cares more about a usable userland unix than > > > >we do at this time has screen installed in base as well. > > > > > > OpenBSD has tmux in base...and I've seen discussions on the NetBSD lists > > > about importing tmux (as a window(1) replacement) into NetBSD base as > > > well... :-) > > > > I dunno Joel, we wouldn't want to get crazy and ship a system that > > was usable out of the box, I'd like to go back to a Solaris > > circa 1999 like system, y'know, kernel+/bin/sh, don't need much > > more than that y'know... > > > > When you install the box, install the port. This isn't rocket > science. > > Can we also add perl back to the base system? It is much more > useful than tmux/screen. 1) Perl is dead. 2) We could add something like ruby or python if someone could get the bootstrap working without build nicely. -- - Alfred Perlstein .- AMA, VMOA #5191, 03 vmax, 92 gs500, 85 ch250 .- FreeBSD committer
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