Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Sun, 9 Jan 2011 11:14:03 +0100
From:      "Patrick M. Hausen" <hausen@punkt.de>
To:        Matthew Seaman <m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Jean-Yves Avenard <jyavenard@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: ZFS - moving from a zraid1 to zraid2 pool with 1.5tb disks
Message-ID:  <5F1A810A-E5B9-420E-89C1-4316A04B9A75@punkt.de>
In-Reply-To: <4D2987E0.7060701@infracaninophile.co.uk>
References:  <4D1C6F90.3080206@my.gd>	<ifsia5$5ub$2@dough.gmane.org>	<4D21E679.80002@my.gd>	<84882169-0461-480F-8B4C-58E794BCC8E6@my.gd>	<BEBC15BA440AB24484C067A3A9D38D7E0149F32D13E3@server7.acsi.ca>	<m262ty39th.wl%randy@psg.com>	<4D297587.4030108@infracaninophile.co.uk> <AANLkTikn2G_23M3PbERTo8KR3sDqxkhWr=OntA4cVwh9@mail.gmail.com> <4D2987E0.7060701@infracaninophile.co.uk>

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
Hi, all,

Am 09.01.2011 um 11:03 schrieb Matthew Seaman:

> [*] All of this mathematics is pretty suspect, because if two drives
> fail simultaneously in a machine, the chances are the failures are not
> independent, but due to some external cause [eg. like the case fan
> breaking and the box toasting itself.]  In which case, the comparative
> chance of whatever it is affecting three or four drives at once =
renders
> the whole argument pointless.


I assume you are familiar with these papers?

http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3D1317403
http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=3D1670144

Short version: as hard disk sizes increase to 2 TB and beyond while the =
URE rate
stays in the order of 1 to 10^14 blocks read, the probability of =
encountering an URE
during rebuild of a single parity RAID approaches 1.

Best regards,
Patrick
--=20
punkt.de GmbH * Kaiserallee 13a * 76133 Karlsruhe
Tel. 0721 9109 0 * Fax 0721 9109 100
info@punkt.de       http://www.punkt.de
Gf: J=FCrgen Egeling      AG Mannheim 108285




Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?5F1A810A-E5B9-420E-89C1-4316A04B9A75>