Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Sat, 27 Jun 2020 16:49:59 +0200
From:      Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>, Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org>, Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@freebsd.org>, "Conrad E. Meyer" <cem@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: weird Ctrl-T debug messages
Message-ID:  <20200627164959.15752fb2@bsd64.grem.de>
In-Reply-To: <61989d05-324a-0b8d-d0cf-0da5f3d9f00d@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <20200627090406.68b5d637@hermann.fritz.box> <CAKBkRUx-TTWUxPJGiiyMxVFFK=v2is5Rc4QruiNgchWf_WY7Dg@mail.gmail.com> <14d1708f-74cc-4a60-3282-3308eb24743e@FreeBSD.org> <20200627115910.4fe32aa6@bsd64.grem.de> <61989d05-324a-0b8d-d0cf-0da5f3d9f00d@FreeBSD.org>

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help


On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 06:21:17 -0700
John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> On 6/27/20 2:59 AM, Michael Gmelin wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:06:17 +0300
> > Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 27/06/2020 10:44, Li-Wen Hsu wrote:  
> >>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 3:04 PM Hartmann, O.
> >>> <ohartmann@walstatt.org> wrote:    
> >>>>
> >>>> Running poudriere on recent CURRENT with (recent) 12-STABLE and
> >>>> CURRENT jails reveals a weird behaviour recently when hitting
> >>>> Ctrl-T:    
> >>> ...    
> >>>> Is this debug fallout from /bin/sh?    
> >>>
> >>> It's because kern.tty_info_kstacks is on by default now:
> >>>
> >>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362141    
> >>
> >> May I suggest that the stack trace is printed procstat -kk style
> >> (single line) ? I think that the more compact output would be more
> >> convenient.  
> > 
> > It's a cool feature and having it on by default on CURRENT certainly
> > helps to discover it, which is great. Thanks for implementing this!
> > 
> > I wouldn't enable it by default on RELEASE versions though, as
> > CTRL-T is a user interface to get status information (at least this
> > is how I use it personally, e.g., while running commands like
> > dd[0], cp, mv, poudriere etc.), not for getting debug output.  
> 
> I agree with this.
> 
> > Question: Speaking of discovering the feature, wouldn't it make
> > sense to document this tunable on the stack(9) and/or tty(4) man
> > page(s)?  
> 
> This sounds like a great idea.  Would you able to come up with a
> patch? I'd be happy to review it.

Sure, it actually seems like that termios(4) is the best
place to put this information.

https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25488

Best,
Michael

-- 
Michael Gmelin



Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?20200627164959.15752fb2>