Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2020 16:49:59 +0200 From: Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de> To: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Michael Gmelin <freebsd@grem.de>, Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org>, Li-Wen Hsu <lwhsu@freebsd.org>, "Conrad E. Meyer" <cem@FreeBSD.org>, FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: weird Ctrl-T debug messages Message-ID: <20200627164959.15752fb2@bsd64.grem.de> In-Reply-To: <61989d05-324a-0b8d-d0cf-0da5f3d9f00d@FreeBSD.org> References: <20200627090406.68b5d637@hermann.fritz.box> <CAKBkRUx-TTWUxPJGiiyMxVFFK=v2is5Rc4QruiNgchWf_WY7Dg@mail.gmail.com> <14d1708f-74cc-4a60-3282-3308eb24743e@FreeBSD.org> <20200627115910.4fe32aa6@bsd64.grem.de> <61989d05-324a-0b8d-d0cf-0da5f3d9f00d@FreeBSD.org>
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 06:21:17 -0700 John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > On 6/27/20 2:59 AM, Michael Gmelin wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 12:06:17 +0300 > > Andriy Gapon <avg@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > > >> On 27/06/2020 10:44, Li-Wen Hsu wrote: > >>> On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 3:04 PM Hartmann, O. > >>> <ohartmann@walstatt.org> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Running poudriere on recent CURRENT with (recent) 12-STABLE and > >>>> CURRENT jails reveals a weird behaviour recently when hitting > >>>> Ctrl-T: > >>> ... > >>>> Is this debug fallout from /bin/sh? > >>> > >>> It's because kern.tty_info_kstacks is on by default now: > >>> > >>> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362141 > >> > >> May I suggest that the stack trace is printed procstat -kk style > >> (single line) ? I think that the more compact output would be more > >> convenient. > > > > It's a cool feature and having it on by default on CURRENT certainly > > helps to discover it, which is great. Thanks for implementing this! > > > > I wouldn't enable it by default on RELEASE versions though, as > > CTRL-T is a user interface to get status information (at least this > > is how I use it personally, e.g., while running commands like > > dd[0], cp, mv, poudriere etc.), not for getting debug output. > > I agree with this. > > > Question: Speaking of discovering the feature, wouldn't it make > > sense to document this tunable on the stack(9) and/or tty(4) man > > page(s)? > > This sounds like a great idea. Would you able to come up with a > patch? I'd be happy to review it. Sure, it actually seems like that termios(4) is the best place to put this information. https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25488 Best, Michael -- Michael Gmelin
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