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Date:      Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:38:57 +0100
From:      "Steven Looman" <fsteevie@wish.net>
To:        "ISDN Mailinglist" <freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: subaddr implementation
Message-ID:  <001001c1b7e2$5c594250$0200a8c0@coyote>

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The partition didn't die, I just cannot boot from it anymore (boot0
(in the mbr) "runs", and then has to load boot1 from the freebsd
partition. This doesn't work, just a mere beep. I can use it when I
use the fixit disk (actually booting from a 4.4-RELEASE cd, I am
running -CURRENT btw). Everythings runs normally (the console
has some problems tho, but i guess that is is normal).

I hadden't thought of the about booting freebsd from the NT
bootloader. It is a dirty fix, but what the hell, if it works it works ;)

Steven

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerhard Sittig" <Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net>
To: "ISDN Mailinglist" <freebsd-isdn@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: subaddr implementation


> [ OT for -isdn, feel free to ignore this, to not reply or
>   to reply by means of PM.  Thank you! ]
> 
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 23:10 +0100, Gary Jennejohn wrote:
> > 
> > "Steven Looman" writes:
> > > 
> > > [ FreeBSD "gone" (not bootable) after installing Win* ]
> > 
> > You installed winxp _after_ you installed FBSD ? BIG mistake !!!
> > I did something similar once. Winblows merrily overwrites all the
> > partition information. I think I ended up having to reinstall
> > FBSD.
> 
> Wait!  It doesn't have to be this bad!
> 
> Although MS is known for the "every PC runs Win" and the "Win
> installations are the only system on a computer, there cannot
> be anything else to make sense" attitudes, only the "smaller"
> Windows versions are really sick in this respect.  But the NT
> versions somehow could vaguely imagine that there can be
> something else.  And they can even be taught to cooperate with
> a second, third, ... system. :)
> 
> To cut it short:  most MS installations "only" overwrite your
> boot sequence (because you don't want to choose when you install
> MS software, do you?).  So I suggest you start a live system or
> a rescue (fixit) floppy/image and run "fdisk", "disklabel -r",
> "mount -o" and the other navigation commands to check if your
> partitions are still there and hold the data you would like
> them to.
> 
> Hooking an OpenSource UNIX into the NT boot loader always has
> been as easy as "dd bs=512 count=1" your UNIX' boot partition
> to a regular file on the MS partition and adding another menu
> option to the boot.ini file.  Only when you insist in running
> LILO you either have to mirror this boot block again after
> running the lilo command (i.e. rebuilding and installing your
> kernel) or you have to point lilo.conf to the mirrored file
> instead of the MBR / partition boot record on disk (that would
> be what I would call more natural, since you boot Linux from
> the NT loader and not from BIOS).  I've never seen a machine
> with both NT and FreeBSD on them (all of my machines are
> dedicated to FreeBSD only), but I guess there's no difference
> here.  It doesn't seem to matter how you get to the partition's
> boot record, as long as you finally do somehow.  After that
> FreeBSD should startup fine as it usually does.
> 
> 
> But if you "installed" from an OEM recovery CD that's a totally
> different matter:  These don't install something but merely
> mirror back an image to your harddrive just like they do in
> their plant when filling an empty disk with what comes bundled
> when you unpack your PC after the purchase.  That's when all hope
> is lost (even "fixing" your running Windows this way makes you
> lose all your data and applications which didn't come with the
> recovery media, i.e. from the hardware vendor).  But you wouldn't
> confuse a recovery CD with an installation or rescue system,
> would you?
> 
> 
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