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Date:      Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:49:14 -0800 (PST)
From:      Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>
To:        Bosko Milekic <bmilekic@dsuper.net>
Cc:        Kris Kirby <kris@hiwaay.net>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Acceptable MBUF levels?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0001282334320.74829-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.05.10001262001540.22674-100000@oracle.dsuper.net>

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Bosko Milekic wrote:

> 
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2000, Doug White wrote:
> 
> >When people refer to mbufs, they refer to mbuf clusters, of which there's
> >a fixed number.  The kernel will allocate more mbufs as necessary.
> 
> 	Uhm, actually, mbufs are also allocated from mb_map. Thus, they are
>   also capped. (Unless I'm missing something big again... :-) )

That would be correct, at least looking at the appropriate code in
/sys/kern/uipc_mbuf.c.  The read-only sysctls kern.ipc.nmbclusters and
kern.ipc.nmbufs hold the max mbuf clusters and the max mbufs, respecively.
kern.ipc.nmbufs is bound to an nmbufs value in there, but I can't figure
out to what value it's initialized to.  

> >The usual rule of thumb is that the peak should never exceed 75% of the
> >max mbufs in the system to allow for sufficient overhead in extreme
> >situations.  In this case you're at 80%, so you should probably recompile
> >your kernel and bump maxusers.
> 
> 	Actually, for mbufs and mbuf clusters, you should increase
>   NMBCLUSTERS, which will serve as an indication of allocate-able clusters
>   as well as, ultimately, mbufs.

Increasing maxusers has the side effect of increasing NMBCLUSTERS
according to this formula (from /sys/conf/param.c):

#ifndef NMBCLUSTERS
#define NMBCLUSTERS     (512 + MAXUSERS * 16)
#endif

You only have to override NMBCLUSTERS by hand if you want a truly gigantic
(i.e. > 10,000) number of nmbclusters.  Just be VERY CAREFUL doing so
since you can *reduce* the number, and that's not good!



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