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Date:      Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:10:43 -0500
From:      Ken Merry <ken@kdm.org>
To:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>, Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>
Cc:        freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Looking for PCI express SCSI diff card recommendations
Message-ID:  <36153F07-0FE2-4DD5-9BD9-EBD18F88FC10@kdm.org>
In-Reply-To: <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org>
References:  <9D2ED808-CE43-41BE-9698-45F0D85843A7@langille.org> <9C8F819A-7B8F-46C8-90E7-BDD16C785BD8@samsco.org>

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So, if you=E2=80=99re interested in newer tape drives / libraries, the =
connection options are FC, SAS or (lately) RoCE.  The first two work =
fine, but I have yet to be able to test/qualify a RoCE drive with =
FreeBSD.  For FC, get a Qlogic board (up to 16Gb is supported now) or a =
16Gb or newer Emulex board.  Both drivers support FC-Tape.  I have had =
much more experience with the Qlogic driver, but the Emulex driver does =
seem to work fine.  For SAS, get an LSI/Broadcom 12Gb or 6Gb board.  =
They support TLR, which is the SAS equivalent of FC-Tape.

The only current tape drive vendor is IBM, and you can get LTO (LTO-8 is =
the latest, 12TB/30TB per tape) or TS drives (TS1160 is the latest, =
20TB/50TB) from them.  TS only makes sense for people with a big =
enterprise budget.

I believe HP stopped making their own tape drives at LTO-6.  Anything =
HP-branded that is LTO-7 or newer is going to be an IBM drive under the =
hood.

If you want a tape library, there are a number of options.  I know from =
copious experience (yes I work there) that Spectra Logic libraries work =
well with FreeBSD, and their support is good.  IBM should also work =
fine, and really, most libraries should work with FreeBSD without an =
issue.

If you want to use LTFS on FreeBSD, I ported IBM=E2=80=99s LTFS to =
FreeBSD:

https://github.com/LinearTapeFileSystem/ltfs =
<https://github.com/LinearTapeFileSystem/ltfs>;

You would need an IBM LTO-5 or newer tape drive.  LTFS is helpful, but =
keep in mind it isn=E2=80=99t a backup package in and of itself.  It =
doesn=E2=80=99t manage multiple tapes, it just gives you a filesystem on =
a tape.

As for SCSI adapters, I have a several ahc(4) boards in a machine =
running FreeBSD/head and talking to SCSI and CD devices.  The driver =
seems to work fine.

One thing to consider if you=E2=80=99re switching machines and looking =
at buying new hardware, is whether your current tape library is still =
sufficient for your needs in terms of speed and capacity.  Rather than =
putting the money towards an LVD to HVD converter, you could put it =
toward a new tape drive or library.

Another thing to consider is using hard drives for backup.  That might =
work, depending on your requirements for durability and shelf life for =
the media.  I=E2=80=99m guessing that buying a number of enterprise SATA =
(or SAS) drives would probably be cheaper than buying even a used =
library, media and FC or SAS card.

Ken
=E2=80=94=20
Ken Merry
ken@FreeBSD.ORG



> On Jan 13, 2019, at 5:27 PM, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
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> Hi Dan,
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> I don=E2=80=99t know of any PCI Express cards that do SCSI, much less =
HVD SCSI.  You might need to start looking at SAS or Fibre Channel for =
future tape drives.  Ken Merry would be a good person asl about those.
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> Scott
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>> On Jan 13, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> wrote:
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>> I have an existing SCSI differential PCI card which works. I want to =
consolidate
>> some services into another chassis, so I am looking for a similar / =
equivalent card
>> for a PCIE slot.
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>> This is a photo of the connector, showing the SCS symbol.  =
https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240 =
<https://twitter.com/DLangille/status/1084566640887562240>;
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>> I am looking for help in locating a replacement. I do not know what =
to search for.
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>> I think that is a n HD68 connector, but I'm failing to find something =
on eBay.
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>> Guidance please, especially if you can think of a model number to =
search for.
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>> Thank you.
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>> --=20
>> Dan Langille - BSDCan / PGCon
>> dan@langille.org
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