Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:56:40 -0600 From: Jonathan Lemon <jlemon@americantv.com> To: pat.groce@state.sd.us Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: unix is a problem: free bsd doesn't help Message-ID: <19981109115640.03531@right.PCS> In-Reply-To: <5D2C95997022D21187350008C7F4CF793E6C00@ESPR1SRV5.state.sd.us>; from pat.groce@state.sd.us on Nov 11, 1998 at 11:30:10AM -0600 References: <5D2C95997022D21187350008C7F4CF793E6C00@ESPR1SRV5.state.sd.us>
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On Nov 11, 1998 at 11:30:10AM -0600, pat.groce@state.sd.us wrote: > I couldn't get anything but 3.0 over the net. I mean i download boot.flp and > fdimage.exe, made my install disk, and 3.0 was what i got. DON'T BLAME ME, I > DID EVERYTHING THE WWW.FREEBD.ORG TOLD ME TO FOR AN INSTALL. Why didn't the > web site or setup program warn me not to install 3.0? > > The web page at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html made it all > sound so simple. I didn't know there were hidden issues! Actually, this may be a valid complaint. 2.2.7 is available from ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/FreeBSD/2.2.7-RELEASE/floppies/boot.flp, however, the link from the handbook to the install boot image at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install.html points to ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/3.0-RELEASE/floppies/boot.flp Perhaps this should be changed so that casual readers will only get the stable version of the software. (I've CC'd this to our documentation coordinator as well) FreeBSD is not perfect, and there are areas that can use some improvement. However, we also depend on people to tell us exactly where the shortcomings are. > If the system isn't configured correctly its FREEBSD'S fault! Why can't a > fresh install even stand on two legs? So what if its out of disk space? Not > my fault. It should have configured the partitions correctly from the first > place. What a joke! And you're blaming ME for the system having problems? As a matter of fact, I am. There is no "one" good configuration. If you want to run a mail server, you need enough disk space for a mail queue. If you want to set up a news server, you had better put your indexes/newsspools on seperate spindles. If you are running a webserver, /usr/local/www had better be large enough to hold your content. In short, you have to know what you want your machine to do when you set it up. > ADMIT IT! FREEBSD CAN NEVER HOLD A CANDLE TO NT. ONLY A MOUNTAIN TROLL WHO > SPENDS HIS DAYS SLOBBERING OVER A KEYBOARD HACKING SYSTEM CODE COULD EVER > GET IT WORKING. > > This os is not for the business world! Again, I'm sorry that you're having problems, but that is simply not true. FreeBSD not only handles our email, website, and internet connectivity, but also our credit card transactions, customer support, payroll, and customer financing, among other duties. The company I work for is a retail shop, so I think they easily qualify as a "business". Again, FreeBSD is not for everyone. If you feel that NT is a better fit to your requirements and staffing skill level, then that is your business decision which I would not presume to second guess. However, I would like to re-iterate my original note, in which I welcome you to tell us how NT fares after performing the same task for the same amount of time. -- Jonathan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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