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Date:      Fri, 3 May 2019 19:52:29 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net>
Cc:        "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>, Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>,  Enji Cooper <yaneurabeya@gmail.com>, Alan Somers <asomers@freebsd.org>,  David Boyd <David.Boyd49@twc.com>, FreeBSD CURRENT <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: New vm-image size is much smaller than previos
Message-ID:  <CANCZdfpc-ceiiXCZpZp-4pK8vha2k_4DgNfCkb%2BUvAy4qSF16g@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20190504013934.GA26932@www.zefox.net>
References:  <20190503171517.GE19873@FreeBSD.org> <201905031806.x43I6FXf093604@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20190504013934.GA26932@www.zefox.net>

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On Fri, May 3, 2019, 7:42 PM bob prohaska <fbsd@www.zefox.net> wrote:

> On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 11:06:15AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > -- Start of PGP signed section.
> > > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 10:12:58AM -0700, Enji Cooper wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On May 3, 2019, at 9:57 AM, Alan Somers <asomers@FreeBSD.org>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > See r346959.  Before first boot, you should expand the image up to
> > > > > whatever size you want.  growfs(8) will automatically expand the
> file
> > > > > system.
> > > > > -Alan
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 10:32 AM David Boyd <David.Boyd49@twc.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The vm-image for 13.0-CURRENT
> > > > >>
> > > > >>         FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20190503-r347033.vmdk
> > > > >>
> > > > >> is only 4.0 GB in size.  Previous images were about 31.0 GB.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This smaller image doesn't leave much room to add packages and
> other
> > > > >> customizations.
> > > >
> > > > This probably deserves a release note.
> > >
> > > It will certainly be mentioned in the 11.3 release notes.
> >
> > And those running head snapshots without reading commit messages
> > are likely to have lots of foot shooting.
> >
> > > Glen
> > --
> > Rod Grimes
> rgrimes@freebsd.org
>
> At the risk of being branded a wishful thinker, a firstboot script that
> asked the user for some configuration information would be a great help
> to both new and experienced foot-shooters. I'm thinking of Raspberry Pi,
> but perhaps it applies to non-embedded platforms also.
>

That's not a bad idea... we could press bsdinstall into service for that
perhaps... we already expand the partition / filesystem to match the media
size...

The original FreeBSD install program (the one by Jordan Hubbard) did a
> very serviceable job. Could it (the user interface) be resurrected?
>

Unlikely. It's too far bit rotted these days. It was extremely tailored to
the i386 env, and a lot has changed since we retired it.

This is an interesting idea. It seems like it wouldn't be too hard to
prototype.

Warner

Thanks for reading,
>
> bob prohaska
>
>
>
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