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Date:      Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:17:35 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd@gmail.com>
Cc:        oizs <oizs@freemail.hu>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Dell Perc 5/i Performance issues
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On Jun 19, 2010, at 10:31 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org> wrote:
>> On Jun 19, 2010, at 5:32 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Garrett Cooper <yanefbsd@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 4:21 AM, oizs <oizs@freemail.hu> wrote:
>>>>> Since I tested it on different kind of os's, and with at least 5 =
testing
>>>>> applications, I don't think that would be the case.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On 2010.06.19. 13:17, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 2:58 AM, oizs<oizs@freemail.hu>  wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> I tried almost everything raid 0 1 5 10 with all kind of stripes
>>>>>>> 32/64/128
>>>>>>> and settings direct io/cached/read-ahead/wt/wb/disk-cache but =
nothing
>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>> to work.
>>>>>>> I changed the card to another dell perc 5 which had an older =
firmware.
>>>>>>> Tried
>>>>>>> 4 kind of motherboards even tried changing the os to linux and =
windows
>>>>>>> xp/7.
>>>>>>> In windows I got some funny results 1.3MB/s with write-back and =
150MB/s
>>>>>>> reads with 5 disks in raid0.
>>>>>>> I just wanted to have a hw raid with no problems since the =
motherboard
>>>>>>> 88sx7042 and bsd did not like eachother.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On 2010.06.19. 11:07, Svein Skogen (Listmail Account) wrote:
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> On 18.06.2010 01:50, oizs wrote:
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> I've bought a Dell Perc 5/i because I couldn't make the =
onboard marvell
>>>>>>>>> 88sx7042 work with 8.0/8.1 or current, but as lucky as I am, =
the best I
>>>>>>>>> can do with 4x1.5tb samsung in raid5 is 60MB/s writes and =
90MB/s reads,
>>>>>>>>> with bbu/write-back/adaptive-read-ahead.
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> I was expecting at least twice of that, and I'm not sure what =
can I do
>>>>>>>>> to get that speed. (I've read man 7 tuning with no success)
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> As far as I know this controller should be as fast as on other =
systems.
>>>>>>>>> (Freebsd.org mx1 has one of these cards.)
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>> I'm hoping somebody on the list reads this and helps because I =
can't
>>>>>>>>> afford to buy another card.
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> I've lost track of what actual boards Dell has OEMized to make =
the
>>>>>>>> various PERCs, but if I remember somewhat correctly, the PERC5 =
is
>>>>>>>> basically an LSI Megaraid SAS 8308elp with different labels and
>>>>>>>> firmware?
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> If so, I've got that exact controller (minus the dell labels =
and
>>>>>>>> firmware) in my primary storage box here, and yes, you SHOULD =
be able to
>>>>>>>> get more performance out of it. What's your strip sizes and =
logical disk
>>>>>>>> layout?
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>> (I've got the same board running on 8x 1T5 Seagates in RAID5+0, =
and that
>>>>>>>> setup easily pulls 5 times the values you're seeing, and by all =
logic
>>>>>>>> you should see about half of what I'm seeing)
>>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Dumb question: are you sure that the problem that you're seeing =
isn't
>>>>>> in fact inhibited by the application that you're getting =
`performance'
>>>>>> results with?
>>>>=20
>>>> If your applications aren't well suited for your hardware's
>>>> capabilities, then of course performance will be bad.
>>>=20
>>> Furthermore, if the performance applications and your use scenarios
>>> are centered around reading, as opposed to writing, there is an =
option
>>> within mficontrol and the mfi(4) interface where you can actually
>>> enable read-ahead, instead of writeback (you unfortunately can't
>>> enable both scenarios). I realize that this is an artificial
>>> improvement in a way, but you should judge whether or not your
>>> application will be doing more reading than writing in whatever
>>> capacity it's doing...
>>>=20
>>> HTH,
>>=20
>> No, that doesn't help.  I wrote the driver, and I have no flipping =
clue what you're talking about.
>=20
>    Nevermind. It was a misunderstanding of what the subcommands...
>    - mfiutil cache .. enable
>    - mfiutil cache .. reads enable
>    - mfiutil cache .. writes enable
>    ... do.
> -Garrett

I'm very late in doing this, but I wanted to publicly apologize to =
Garrett both for being rude and flippant to him, and for doing so in =
public.

Scott




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