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Date:      Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:17:26 -0500
From:      Charles Swiger <cswiger@mac.com>
To:        Mark <admin@asarian-host.net>
Cc:        'FreeBSD-Questions Questions' <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Adaptec AAC raid support
Message-ID:  <05e1259c5522c81f3d865c59f31b8a10@mac.com>
In-Reply-To: <200503202028.j2KKS5Us069180@asarian-host.net>
References:  <200503202028.j2KKS5Us069180@asarian-host.net>

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On Mar 20, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Mark wrote:
>> I'd bet a dollar to a donut that LSI, Promise, 3ware, and other
>> vendors of RAID hardware also have NDA agreements which would prevent
>> those companies from making every single internal document available
>> to the public.
>
> <RANT>
>
> Nobody ever asked they make 'every single internal document available 
> to
> the public'. That is your own strawman. People do ask, however, that
> Adaptec makes enough documentation available to know when what commands
> to set to the chipset, and when to expect what to be returned. 
> Especially if
> they themselves have not solved all bugs

I didn't create a strawman argument, you can go read what what was said 
yourself.

Please refer to this exchange between Theo and Scott in
Message-id: <423C7FC8.1020407@samsco.org>, which ended with:

"No, I can't now and never could before give out docs, but I've always 
been
happy to help, review code, point out bugs, etc."

Why is it that Scott cannot release the docs being referred to here?  
I'll give you a hint:  what is a three-letter word which limits an 
employee from releasing information proprietary to his current or 
former employer?

Theo demanded information from Adaptec and from Scott.  He got told no.

[ At least Theo seems to understand the situation, or to use his own 
words:

"Noone thought to talk to you.  You are, I am sure, under a
non-disclosure agreement with Adaptec, and I am sure you would
therefore not give us documentation.  We are quite used to FreeBSD and
Linux people signing NDA's by now...." ]

-- 
-Chuck



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