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Date:      Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:49:21 -0400 (AST)
From:      "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@hub.org>
To:        Vallo Kallaste <kalts@estpak.ee>
Cc:        "Sameer R. Manek" <manek@ecst.csuchico.edu>, <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG>, <re@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: restoring definition of -stable
Message-ID:  <20021119104221.M19853-100000@hub.org>
In-Reply-To: <20021119143531.GA1770@tiiu.internal>

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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Vallo Kallaste wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 02:36:00PM -0800, "Sameer R. Manek"
> <manek@ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote:
>
> > cc'd to release engineering team
> >
> > I think part of the problem is that freebsd has lost someone who previously
> > used to make sure that patches MFC were actually stable. JKH used to play an
> > active role in that. I remember once, someone had MFC some code that
> > introduced a stability bug, Jordan told the list that whoever MFCd' the code
> > had till the end of the day to issue a fix, or roll back the patch. We all
> > agree that -current is never a good idea for production systems.
>
> Actually, it weren't so beautiful, if I remember. Every so often in
> the release cycle were pre-release commitfest by jkh, because almost
> all the patches did through his hands. I'm not so sure he did
> commit/test cycle on each patch, this is unrealistic considering it
> as one-man job. Not that I want to diminish jkh long-time
> contributions to FreeBSD Project, just making sure you all don't get
> so excited about this model.

Actually, major benefit to this model is that JKHs time was dedicated to
the project, so if a patch did break something, he could dedicate the time
to tracking down the person who committed (or submitted) the patch to get
it fixed, or pull it out, accordingly ...



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