Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 19:00:39 -0600 From: Gary Aitken <freebsd@dreamchaser.org> To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: preserving user added libraries Message-ID: <5244D8B7.4060804@dreamchaser.org>
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Hi all, I had an issue when reinstalling openjdk* where it removed the jar for mysql db access. Below is the conversation regarding this from ports: On 09/26/13 14:20, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Gary Aitken <freebsd@dreamchaser.org> wrote: >> On 09/26/13 12:39, Kimmo Paasiala wrote: >>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Scot Hetzel <swhetzel@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Gary Aitken <freebsd@dreamchaser.org> wrote: >>>>> Is portmaster supposed to retain files which it did not install when updating / >>>>> reinstalling a port? >>>>> >>>>> For example, jave extensions are normally installed by placing a jar file in >>>>> /usr/local/openjdk6/jre/lib/ext/ >>>>> >>>>> When reinstalling, these are wiped out. >> <snip> >>>> The problem is not with portmaster, as it runs the pkg or pkg_install >>>> commands to remove the port. If you have files that are missing after >>>> uninstalling a port, then you'll need to check what that port is >>>> doing. Most likely the port has a @dirrm instead of an @dirrmtry for >>>> that directory in it's pkg-plist file. >>>> >>>> I had a look at the java/openjdk6/Makefile, and it creates the list of >>>> directories to remove with @dirrm instead of @dirrmtry. So it looks >>>> like the issue is with java/openjdk6 removing that directory. >> <snip> >>> It's a larger problem with no clear solution. What the programs that >>> install additional files after the initial installation should do is >>> to use /var/db/xyz for the additional files so that they are contained >>> in a separate directory alltogether. >> <snip> >> >> That presumes all additional files are installed via the ports mechanism, >> or at least know about it, which is highly unlikely. With plugins of >> various types and machine-independent binaries like java .class files >> abounding, requiring every add-on to be installed by the ports mechanism >> isn't likely to work in the long run. >> >> I can see how a program installed by the ports mechanism should use the >> mechanism you're advocating, but I don't think it applies to all cases. >> >> In this case, it was a mysql driver, obtained as a binary (.jar of >> java .class files). But things like gimp plugins have the same issue. <snip> > I was referring to untracked files that have not been installed via > the ports system or packages. However, it seems impossible to convince > software writers that /usr and /usr/local might be read-only at > run-time :/ <snip> I'm wondering if this has already been settled at the current state of affairs. I'm open to some other way of installing add-ons, but I don't think one should have to track and re-install them with every upgrade. Gary
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