Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 00:21:46 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock <michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: mark@markdnet.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Large port updates Message-ID: <200412080021.53056.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <41B62F8F.4050509@FreeBSD.org> References: <20041207163843.GL9803@elch.haidundneu23.net> <20041207220033.GB31640@xor.obsecurity.org> <41B62F8F.4050509@FreeBSD.org>
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--nextPart2810083.KVSImbACGN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Tuesday, 7. December 2004 23:32, Adam Weinberger wrote: > On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 05:52:15PM +0000, mark@markdnet.demon.co.uk wrote: > >It seems to me that its a product of gnome being so many ports. Why > >not just have a few, like KDE (although it appears KDE is going the > >way of gnome - if this results in portupgrade not working there > >either, its insanity). > > * With KDE, you get one big update every release. With GNOME, you > can get new features, fixes, and improvements as soon as they become > available. It's just a different design model. Each has its merits; > each has its faults. > > * With KDE, you have one kdelibs port that takes about 80 minutes to > build. With GNOME, you have about 20 ports that take about 4 minutes > each to build. 6 of one, half dozen of another. That's purely > metaphorical, of course: using ccache, I can build all GNOME meta- > ports in about 6.5 hours; building the KDE meta-port takes about 9. > > * portupgrade(1) works perfectly if you run it regularly. If you > introduce inconsistencies, portupgrade will fail no matter how you run > it, or even if you build the updates from the command-line. > > * If you don't like the deployment structure of GNOME, talk to GNOME, > not FreeBSD. You wouldn't complain to your TV manufacturer if you > didn't like a movie you rented. Last but not least: ports/UPDATING is witness to the fact that a simple=20 portupgrade -a won't always work for upgrading KDE either, in particular=20 between feature releases (second number in version changes). And do expect= =20 hell to break loose when KDE 4 arrives... =2D-=20 ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --nextPart2810083.KVSImbACGN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBBtjsQXhc68WspdLARAqhOAJ4y6fmJYFCY8mvEmEbPOhK//oH3AACfWhdI jRle0MKWdWG5loaPa5GPPMM= =02Rr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2810083.KVSImbACGN--
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