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Date:      Sat, 3 Aug 2002 17:39:19 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        Clifton Royston <cliftonr@lava.net>
Cc:        Bri <brian@ukip.com>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
Subject:   Re: dhcp problems with my ISP
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0208031738040.53045-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <20020803104230.B27467@lava.net>

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sometimes it's the cable modem that is cachingthe MAC address.

whenever you change machines you need to power down and power up the cable
modem.


On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Clifton Royston wrote:

> On Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 11:46:50AM -0700, freebsd-hackers-digest wrote:
> > Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 03:17:17 -0700
> > From: Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
> > Subject: Re: dhcp problems with my ISP
> > 
> > Bri wrote:
> > > Hi I have a Cable and have a Cable Modem for my internet connection of which
> > > you use dhcp to obtain an IP address great but this only seems to work
> > > successfully on a Windows machine I've registered all the other mac
> > > addresses of unix boxes and Apple macs I have and they seem to have alot of
> > > difficulty obtaining IP addresses. Especially the UNIX machines which run
> > > FreeBSD 4.5-RELEASE or 5.0-CURRENT on sparc64 at the moment the sparc64 box
> > > which is a Sun Ultra 5 which is the worst for detecting an IP with dhclient.
> > > 
> > > What I would really like to know is what does the windows dhcp do
> > > differently than say dhclient.
> > > 
> > > I would be very interested to know as I would like a UNIX machine that can
> > > maintain and IP address.
> > 
> > Use the same exact NIC.
> > 
> > Often, once the cable company sees a MAC address, it filters all
> > other MAC addresses from getting a lease from your wire.
> > 
> > The intent of this is to prevent people grabbing more than one
> > lease simultaneously, or running more than one machine at a time.
> > 
> > Ask Julian Elisher.  He had exactly this problem with a machine
> > in San Francisco, 2 years ago.
> > 
> > Note: If you ask, he will say "Yes, I had exactly this problem";
> > he won't tell you anything you can do about it, except "Use the
> > same exact NIC", because that's really the only fix.
> > 
> > - -- Terry
> 
>   This is true.
> 
>   However, one special and relevant case of "Use the same exact NIC" is
> to set up one of the various UNIX boxes as your gateway doing NAT, and
> have it act as a DHCP server for your LAN.  Once that's done it can
> issue DHCP leases to all your other systems, and then (for most
> protocols) you can run as many machines as you like on your LAN using
> that one cable company IP address.
> 
>   The freedom to do this kind of thing is one of the advantages of
> using free UNIXes, and one might as well take advantage of it.
> 
>   -- Clifton
> 
> -- 
>     Clifton Royston  --  LavaNet Systems Architect --  cliftonr@lava.net
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>    What does it take to make us sing?
>  While we're waiting for the next one to arrive..." - Sisters of Mercy
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