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Date:      Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:16:04 +0100
From:      Vincent Hoffman <vince@unsane.co.uk>
To:        Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>
Cc:        Dan Allen <danallen46@airwired.net>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD 7.1 Content
Message-ID:  <48BFB564.2000802@unsane.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <20080904085415.GG15376@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>
References:  <35445338-D597-4FE2-996F-DEC7BE986741@airwired.net>	<20080903191454.GA15376@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>	<DC1CA362-09F3-4D85-BE20-776A133FD3D6@airwired.net> <20080904085415.GG15376@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>

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Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On 2008-Sep-03 15:53:30 -0600, Dan Allen <danallen46@airwired.net> wrote:
>   
>> I see.  I was thinking of FreeBSD 7.0 whose disc1 is 509 MB in size,  
>> leaving almost 200 MB free for a standard 700 MB CD.
>>     
>
> I missed that the disc layous have been rearranged and disc1 is now
> somewhat emptier than when I last looked.  However, you've missed a
> few points as well:
> 1) Currently, the contents of each disk is the same on each architecture.
>    Changing this is possible but would be very confusing to users.
>    sparc64 appears to be the largest and disk1 is over 600MB.
> 2) Traditionally, the ISO images have been sized to fit on 650MB CD-RWs.
>    Maybe this should be revisited but during a release freeze is not
>    the right time for that.
> 3) It's desirable to leave some slack so that a slight size increase in
>    the final builds doesn't necessitate re-working the CD layouts.
>
>   
>> Ubuntu 8.04 has room for [the kitchen sink]
>>     
>
> For most architectures, disc1 includes a live filesystem.  This is
> very useful for recovery purposes.  Since FreeBSD does not include
> cloop or similar compressed FS support, this takes a fair amount of
> space.  And you've already pointed out that disc1 includes sources
> (which you want to keep).
>
>   
Actually FreeBSD does support a compressed (read only) filesystem,
geom_uzip(4) This is used by freesbie if I remember rightly.
However it does mean you cannot just mount and browse the install cd
with the generic kernel, and I'd guess it bumps up the base system
requirements.

Vnce

>> Here is a quick list (not exhaustive or definitive) of the libraries  
>> that Firefox 3.0 requires, and their sizes in bytes:
>>     
>
> Note that you need to include the space needed by the packages for all
> the FF3 dependencies, not just the shared libraries.
>
>   
>> These total 27696575 bytes or 26.4 MB.
>>     
>
> Including the full list of runtime dependencies, FF3 needs 120 packages,
> totalling 89MB (already bzip'd) on i386.
>
>   




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