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Date:      Mon, 5 Sep 2005 21:37:10 -0400
From:      Mikhail Teterin <mi+kde@aldan.algebra.com>
To:        Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>, Beecher Rintoul <akbeech@gmail.com>
Cc:        questions@freebsd.org, fs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Strange case of filesystem corruption?
Message-ID:  <200509052137.10847@aldan>
In-Reply-To: <431CE4F8.8000404@centtech.com>
References:  <200509051953.22337@aldan> <431CE4F8.8000404@centtech.com>

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On Monday 05 September 2005 08:38 pm, Eric Anderson wrote:
= Mikhail Teterin wrote:
= > Can this be explained by anything other than a (nasty) bug?
= > 
= > 	% ls -la audio/shorten/files
= > 	total 0
= > 	% rmdir audio/shorten/files
= > 	rmdir: audio/shorten/files: Directory not empty
= > 
= > This is on 5.4-stable from July 21 -- up ever since... Thanks!
[...]
=   Can you show permissions on the directories audio, shorten, and files? 

Well, ls of the directory succeds above, so it can not be the permission
problem. But here:

	% cd audio/shorten
	% ls -lds
	2 drwxrwxr-x  4 mi  wheel  512 Jul 21 01:13 .
	% ls -loas files
	total 0
	% rmdir files
	rmdir: files: Directory not empty

= Also - what is your securelevel set to

Default.

= and have you checked to see if there are processes with any open files
= in those directories?

I doubt there are any, and why would that affect anything anyway? Here:

	% mkdir /tmp/q
	% touch /tmp/q/meow
	% tail -F /tmp/q/meow &
	[2] 39947
	% rm /tmp/q/meow
	% rmdir /tmp/q

In other words, the directory (/tmp/q) is removable even if a process
(tail) still has a deleted file (meow) in it opened.

On Monday 05 September 2005 08:42 pm, Beecher Rintoul wrote:
= Try  rm -R audio/shorten/files

Thank you, but I'm afraid, it may succeed in deleting the directory,
while I try to figure out, what is happening -- the directory is empty
according to ls, but not empty according to rmdir.

	-mi




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