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Date:      Thu, 15 Sep 2016 15:11:25 -0400
From:      Greg Marsh <greg.marsh@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Best kind of hard drive for heavy use?
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Hi all,=20

I've been reading this thread with joy and interest. I've been enamored with=
 hard drives ever since a high school teacher gave me a huge textbook to rea=
d on how they worked. That was 30 years ago, when interleaving and MFM/RLL w=
ere still things.=20
I eventually parlayed that into several storage management/architect jobs.=20=


Enough with my background.

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned in this discussion is that if heavy w=
orkloads are the concern, why are spindle drives being considered? If SSD is=
 too much $/GiB, why is it only 1 spindle drive, when one could run a reason=
ably quick, hard workload RAID-Z?=20

I don't know what the OP's budget is, but if speed is a priority, I wouldn't=
 consider any single spindle sata drive, regardless of make. I'd go SSD, kno=
wing that it's only going to last me a few years at best. If that's all the t=
ime he got out of his single spindle drive, why go back to one? If memory se=
rves, modern SSD drives are all triple cell now, unlike the first few genera=
tions of consumer SSDs, which were only single cell.

My .02 on drive makers, at home I have a 4x2tb WD Red ZFS array, which takes=
 a licking and keeps on ticking. It's been running 24x7 for 2 years so far. =
 It's my backup and media streaming system, with a few other jailed systems t=
hat are staging/testing before I implement live.=20

I hope that made sense.=20
Have a great day everyone!

Cheers,
Greg

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 15, 2016, at 14:08, RW via freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@fre=
ebsd.org> wrote:
>=20
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 17:24:46 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote:
>=20
>>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:10:26 +0100, RW via freebsd-questions wrote:
>>> The important thing is that everything that can't (or shouldn't) be
>>> discarded has to fit into swap+ram. Most desktops/workstations have
>>> much more memory than they need, in which case you can safely
>>> allocate swap plus most of the ram to tmpfs, if you want to. =20
>>=20
>> Ok, I didn't use FreeBSD since a while ago. On my Arch Linux, if the
>> tmpfs is full, swap isn't used ...
>=20
> I don't know why your particular system didn't swap, but that's not
> true in general, e.g.:
>=20
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
>=20
> "tmpfs puts everything into the kernel internal caches and grows and
> shrinks to accommodate the files it contains and is able to swap
> unneeded pages out to swap space."
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