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Date:      Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:06:56 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Matt Heckaman <matt@ARPA.MAIL.NET>
To:        Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.org, advocacy@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Conquering the Land of ISV (Was: No port of Opera?)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007100101160.42050-100000@epsilon.lucida.qc.ca>
In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000709220353.04a82610@localhost>

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On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Brett Glass wrote:
[cc list trimmed]

...
: Seriously, I do seem to be getting shot in the back an awful lot in
: this forum. I have some replies to make, especially to some of the
: messages Jordan has written, but they'll have to wait until tomorrow.
: I have a deadline tonight.

You can't be getting shot in the back in a debate that you're willfully
taking part in. That goes for all of you. I like the emulator, it has
solved nearly every one of my "damn I wish I could run X in FreeBSD"
problems to date. Would I PAY for a product to run under emulation? Not on
your life. Do I expect SUPPORT for a product under emulation? Nope. 

I do buy software native to FreeBSD though, (codeforge being a good
example) and I would love a native port of xyz as much as anyone. Such is
life. Its high time we deal with that reality AT THE MOMENT because right
now there's not much we can do about it. Maybe when the whole attitude of
"{Free,Net,Open}BSD, is that a variant of Linux?" changes, as well as
developers getting very fed up with the inconsistencies that make their
life a living nightmare, THEN we may get our wishes.

I see both sides of your argument, and I've hesitated to get involved
until now, but this has degraded far below what the real issues are. I
would suggest to all involved that it may be best to wage war on the
problem, not the personal feelings involved.

Can we please end this god awful thread?
 
: --Brett

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