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Date:      Mon, 28 Dec 2020 17:19:39 -0800
From:      John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@freebsd.org>, Thomas Mueller <mueller6722@twc.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD src repo transitioning to git this weekend
Message-ID:  <20201229011939.GU31099@funkthat.com>
In-Reply-To: <20201223162417.v7Ce6%steffen@sdaoden.eu>
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Steffen Nurpmeso wrote this message on Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 17:24 +0100:
>  |Then there's also the point that the repo is (looks like it) using
>  |SHA-1 hashes, which are effectively broken, so depending upon them
>  |to validate the tree is questionable anyways.
> 
> git uses the hardened SHA-1 for sure, which is, as far as i know,
> at least safe against the known attack.
> I .. have not tracked this, but i think upgrading to SHA-256 is
> possible, once this will become standard.  Just even more
> metadata, then.  I have not looked into this, still in progress.

A new attack came out earlier this year:
https://eprint.iacr.org/2020/014.pdf

>From the paper:
> In particular, chosen-prefix collisions can break signature schemes and
> handshake security in secure channel protocols (TLS, SSH), if generated
> extremely quickly.

The previous attack in 2017 did not break SHA-1 enough to render it's
use by git vulnerable, but the writing was on the wall for SHA-1...

I believe this new attack makes git's use a SHA-1 vulnerable...
The type/length prefix that prevented the previous attacks from
working is not effective against the new attack...

Also, the cost of the attack is not great ($45k), considering the recent
SolarWinds supply chain attack, being able to smuggle a modified file
into a git repo, say an OS's build server, such that the tools don't
know the tree is modified is a real problem...

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  John-Mark Gurney				Voice: +1 415 225 5579

     "All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not."



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