Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 21:05:42 +0200 From: Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de> To: Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net> Cc: Tom Evans <tevans.uk@googlemail.com>, "ports@freebsd.org" <ports@freebsd.org>, freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <9C206CE8-6A3B-4B6D-82D9-62B9688DCA32@ultra-secure.de> In-Reply-To: <54073097.6000006@sorbs.net> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052DFA.4030808@freebsd.org> <54053372.6020009@my.hennepintech.edu> <5405890F.8080804@freebsd.org> <CAF-3MvNBWSEWF-HarwF0xcXQgo=7-dO%2BtvLMO1maELPY0RVhQQ@mail.gmail.com> <20140902125256.Horde.uv31ztwymThxUZ-OYPQoBw1@webmail.df.eu> <5405AE54.60809@sorbs.net> <1D2B4A91-E76C-43A0-BE75-D926357EF1AF@gmail.com> <5405E4F5.4090902@sorbs.net> <5406BD65.705@digsys.bg> <5406ED34.7090301@sorbs.net> <5406F00C.6090504@digsys.bg> <C4EC1A3A-6EB1-4EE1-ACEA-12C8E203991C@cs.huji.ac.il> <358B9E99-5E02-47BA-9E30-045986150966@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <540711FF.3050409@sorbs.net> <47F4AAAA-2D88-4F03-8602-880C4B129305@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <54072011.7030800@sorbs.net> <CAFHbX1KTmqPCec1NN3=kC=RAc_RLGztf%2B1r4b=jiy5fJUQa-Rw@mail.gmail.com> <540723EC.5000908@sorbs.net> <CAFHbX1JgG2Kzc%2B2BgN-DcYJjOTabRANpVy-HkYfQKRjEUK73xg@mail.gmail.com> <54073097.6000006@sorbs.net>
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Am 03.09.2014 um 17:15 schrieb Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>: >=20 >=20 > I learned that the ports tree was being updated so much that things > would break every day in just 580 packages I have. I have to ask, why you had to build from the HEAD of the ports tree = every day? I never do this. I only take the quarterly releases (before, I would = wait for a FreeBSD Release and the accompanying freeze and use that) and = if something doesn=92t build, I try to update only that port (making a = backup) from =84current=93 ports tree. Still, if you absolutely need pkg_*, you=92ve either got to backport = every single port to use pkg_* again or upgrade the servers that use it = to pkg. I admit it=92s a big task, if you have many servers - but the effort is = well worth it IMO because upgrading packages with anything but pkg is a = nightmare. For me, the EOL of the pkg_* tools was never a concern, so I never read = the announcements that closely. Maybe someone can pull out the old mails and tell if they actually = spelled out that you can=92t even build ports anymore if you don=92t = have pkg installed. I can say that there is no chance we would be using FreeBSD anymore here = at all if it didn=92t have pkg!
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