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Date:      Mon, 05 Jun 1995 10:52:29 -0700
From:      Gary Palmer <gpalmer@westhill.cdrom.com>
To:        Bill Fenner <fenner@parc.xerox.com>
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: FTP install is *almost* there... 
Message-ID:  <7685.802374749@westhill.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 05 Jun 1995 10:30:30 PDT." <95Jun5.103043pdt.49859@crevenia.parc.xerox.com> 

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In message <95Jun5.103043pdt.49859@crevenia.parc.xerox.com>, Bill Fenner writes
:
>- The FTP install is getting closer... however, I need to be able to use an
>  FTP server running on an alternate port.  The URL format allows this, as
>  ftp://beta.xerox.com:4514/..., but it doesn't appear that the installer
>  parses this format, as I get a message something like "Looking up host
>  beta.xerox.com:4514".

It doesn't - and I believe that the value of 21 is hard coded. Although
it's probably not difficult to change, I'm not the one who will be doing
it :-)

>- I have two ed cards in my machine, and I was stupid enough to not write
>  down the configuration before newfs'ing my old /usr partition.  I have been
>  trying to get the ed0 that's in the distributed kernel to work, but I could
>  really use a "ping"; as it is I have to try different "ifconfig" commands
>  and then try the install again and see if it can find the hostname and
>  doesn't print "ed0: device timeout".

There is the slight problem of disk space - we can't fit anything more
on the boot floppy :-( If you could go with the floppy install far enough
to get the root floppy read in, you'll find ping on there. You can
drop back to the main install screen after that and not need to
read the root.flp again (in theory :-) )

>  I could also use a "netstat" command; I'm sure the routing tables are
>  confused but I can't check because I don't have a "netstat -r"...

Hack: Enter the `ppp' program - it has a `show route' command. You
may need to select PPP install, and then exit back out once it's been
started on the 3rdvty for you, as it needs certain conditions to work.

>- One nit, the "Other" ftp site doesn't "remember" what I typed in it like
>  the username and password fields do.

Probably best. Although using it as a default value is possible. Actually,
that's a definate poke of Jordan coming :-)

>- Also, having *all* the options in the "Options" menu be checkboxes is
>  kind of confusing.  What does it mean to have both "FTP Abort" and
>  "FTP Reselect" on?  What does it mean to have both "FTP active" and
>  "FTP passive" on?  What does it mean to check the "Exit" checkbox?
>  It seems like it would make more sense for the "Abort/Reselect" and
>  "active/passive" to be radiobuttons, not checkboxes, and for
>  "FTP userpass", "clear" and "exit" to be menu items, not checkboxes.
>  Can you mix types within one dialog box?

Hmm. Dunno much about the menus. Jordan?

>- There should be an "F1 for help" on the network setup menu; I pressed
>  it in hope and there was actually something useful there, but I looked
>  several other places before I looked there, just because there wasn't
>  anything that said to press F1.

Submissions welcome!

>- The network device doesn't seem to get ifconfig'd multiple times; I tried
>  selecting the ftp media with ed0 device several times, each time with
>  different LINKx flags, and each time doing an "ifconfig ed0" on vty4
>  shows no LINKx flag set.

Huh? The tracebacks on my machine show an ifconfig down at the end of
each commit `run', and it being ifconfig'd again on the way back up.
I'll have to look at this more carefully.

>  This is even more obvious when I went back to the media menu and switched
>  from ed0 to ed1; ed1 is not ifconfig'd and the default route still points
>  to ed0.

Strange. Must be a lurking bogon somewhere. I'll go hunt it down.

>- I'd reccommend more text for the host resolution failure message; right now
>  it says:

>Cannot resolve hostname `beta.xerox.com'!  Are you sure your name server
>and/or gateway values are set properly?

>  How about "Are you sure your network card is configured properly?", since
>  I'm pretty sure that's what is going wrong in this case (especially since
>  "ed0: device timeout" keeps appearing on the debugging screen...)

Good idea!

>- My machine simply hangs when I select "exit" -- it says

>syncing disks... 4 4 2 done
>_

>  (where "_" is the cursor).  No rebooting action.  2.0-SNAP950412 would
>  reboot the machine just fine.

sysinstall doesn't execute a reboot, but a halt. For some reason, due
to the virtual console hack Jordan used to get the kernel messages
to go to vty1 also means that the message to press any key to reboot
is lost unless you switch consoles away from vty1 and then back again.

It's a syscons bug I think, and I hope Jordan's told Soren (Hi there)
by now - I've seen it all too often in the past few days and have
pointed it out to Jordan at least once.

Gary



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