Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 23:02:12 +0100 From: Julian H Stacey <Julian.H.Stacey@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de> To: cvs-etc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/etc.i386 MAKEDEV Message-ID: <94Dec6.230238met.43045@eikon.regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de>
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> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@whisker.hubbard.ie>
> I think that this is confusing, and it also requires our users to be
> aware of too much of the internal workings of things to say that they
> have to rename things in /dev.
It would be unfortunate to go through another wave of sio disturbance & change,
as it took a long time to get it sorted last time, in particular, the manuals
remained inconsistent with the code through too many changes last time.
There was a time of considerable annoyance because the code was repeatedly
screwed about with & commited it, & only later were pdated man pages commited,
that made it v. hard to use in the interim.
To extend `least surprise': if we need any changes,
they should be committed to src & docs simultaneously (ie prepared off line,
& both brought to the the ready-for-commit stage simultaneously),
and all changes should be discussed in current@... well before.
BTW "well before" does _not_ mean announcing to the list "I will do .."
& doing it a mere few hours later, as has been seen with a few things
previously, on a rotating world, some of us are asleep,
some at work, & only some free to read freebsd stuff,
thus at least 24 hours notice is required between announcing intention
to change functionality, & doing it (personally I'd prefer 48 hours).
FYI My setup allowing permanent getty for dial in, + kermit dial out,
(with no kill of getty & ed /etc/ttys required for dial out) :-) ...
I have for serial line 1, /dev/ cua01 cuai01 cual01 ttyd1 ttyid1 ttyld1
/etc/ttys:
# tty00 Mouse
ttyd1 "/usr/libexec/getty std.19200" vt100 on # Unsecure Modem
# supports dial in
#
tty02 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 off secure # Toshiba
# hardwire local
& for modem dial out
kermit -l /dev/cua01
Julian S.
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