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Date:      Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:02:15 +0200
From:      "Alexey Shuvaev" <shuvaev@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
To:        Fabian Keil <freebsd-listen@fabiankeil.de>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: usb/46176: Let's save the horse! [was: HEADSUP new usb code coming in.]
Message-ID:  <20080821100215.GA24076@wep4017.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de>
In-Reply-To: <20080820234335.7c82b26a@fabiankeil.de>
References:  <200808192244.24034.hselasky@c2i.net> <20080819211814.6CD685B4D@mail.bitblocks.com> <20080819.160510.104119134.imp@bsdimp.com> <20080820234335.7c82b26a@fabiankeil.de>

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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:43:35PM +0200, Fabian Keil wrote:
> Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>
> > Subject: Re: HEADSUP new usb code coming in. 
> > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:18:13 -0700
> > 
> > > 
> > > Accidentally unplugging a mounted USB disk (without
> > > unmounting it) resulted in a hang or a crash.  Is this fixed?
> > 
> > That's fixed in -current right now with the old stack.  It isn't a usb
> > issue at all, but a buffer cache issue.
> 
> I can't confirm this for either msdosfs or geli (with ZFS).
> 
> In case of msdosfs the situation has been vastly improved
> and the panic seems to be no longer guaranteed, but there's
> still a fair chance it'll happen eventually.
> 
It was discussed now and then on freebsd-usb mailing list.
Have a look at http://www.gulbra.net/freebsd-usb/

As for the non-msdosfs formatted media, I am quite sure it is a really bad
idea to unplug media before unmounting it (there is actually no difference
between "removable" and "stationary" drives).

Just my 0.02$,
Alexey.



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