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Date:      Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:42:38 -0700
From:      Mike Smith <msmith@freebsd.org>
To:        "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
Cc:        "Mike Smith" <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, "Doug Hass" <dhass@imagestream.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FYI 
Message-ID:  <200110180942.f9I9gcs10427@mass.dis.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 18 Oct 2001 02:22:41 PDT." <004101c157b6$6fcdb0a0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> 

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> >You're a) misrepresenting the project, b) dismissing the opinions and
> >statements of others that are arguably more in touch with the project,
> >and c) you won't let this stupid thread die.
> 
> I do not feel that this thread is stupid.

This much is obvious.  You are, however, largely alone in this opinion.

> To the contrary I'm very
> concerned when a manufacturer pulls a specialty card supported
> by FreeBSD off the market and replaces it with nothing that is
> supported.

If you're "very concerned" about it, I recommend doing something 
constructive to mitigate the situation.  The vendor in question appears 
to have offered a bounty for a driver; why don't you get busy on it?

> Every time this happens (and it seems to be happening
> a lot with network adapters lately)

It does?  Really?  You know, I can only think of one ethernet chipset
currently on the market that we don't support, or don't have imminent 
support coming for.

That's not "a lot" by any stretch of the imagination.

So I'll say it all again, in a slightly different fashion: You sound too
much like Brett Glass.  Less hysteria, please, and a little more 
practicality.

 = Mike

-- 
... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his
rivals and unfortunately opponents also.  But not because people want
to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
people to take different points of view.  [Dr. Fritz Todt]
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