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Date:      Wed, 27 Aug 2003 16:05:53 -0700
From:      "David G. Lawrence" <dg@dglawrence.com>
To:        Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc:        stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Ok, are all the panics fixed now?
Message-ID:  <20030827230553.GO61917@nexus.dglawrence.com>
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> At 11:42 PM 27/08/2003 +0400, Maxim Konovalov wrote:
> 
> >It's simple: we need to backout all these untested MFCs.
> 
> I dont think people throw in untested MFCs into STABLE. They do their best 
> effort and with that, there will still be some bugs.  Its that simple.

   Well, we all have different definitions for 'testing'.
  To me, 'tesing' is something that takes anywhere from several weeks to
several months to do and often involves hundreds of machines, configurations,
and load mixes.
   Perhaps to some others, 'testing' means that the code compiles and 
the system boots up without panicing.
   For -current, perhaps the fast-and-loose definition is appropriate.
   For -stable that is nearing a 'x.9' release, I think my definition (very
conservative) should be the standard. By that definition, the PAE changes
should be promptly removed (and should have been when the first signs of
trouble showed up).

-DG

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