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Date:      Mon, 8 Sep 1997 03:28:32 -0400
From:      Lee Cremeans <lee@wakky.dyn.ml.org>
To:        Mike Smith <mike@smith.net.au>
Cc:        chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: lousy disk perf. under cpu load (was IDE vs SCSI)
Message-ID:  <19970908032832.44490@wakky.dyn.ml.org>
In-Reply-To: <199709080628.QAA01795@word.smith.net.au>; from Mike Smith on Mon, Sep 08, 1997 at 04:28:40PM %2B1000
References:  <19970908024325.42427@wakky.dyn.ml.org> <199709080628.QAA01795@word.smith.net.au>

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> > 
> > Makes sense...I had an old (1985) Seagate ST-4026 that used linear seek, and
> > the magnets in it were HUGE. There's also a Hitachi DK511-8 here, of about
> > the same vintage, that uses rotary voice-coil. 
> 
> I was talking pre-1980 stuff; you would have to find a real fossil to 
> tell you what they were using before that. 8)

Heh...fwiw, the oldest HD I've ever seen was from 1982, a stepper-based IMI.

> > 
> > Yep...most stepper-motor drives I've seen used rack-and-pinion and
> > sector-and-pinion linkages, joined together with bands or gears--about the
> > same as a floppy drive. How they got those things to track accurately is
> > beyond me, though.
> 
> That's what guardbands are for; you use a bias current to pull the 
> stepper slightly off centre until you find one band, then push it the 
> other way to find the other.  Center between the two is the middle of 
> the track.  8)

Hmmm...I didn't know you could do that with a stepper motor, but then I'm no
stepper motor expert :) 

> Lots of disks use the spindle to power the drive in spindown; listen to 
> any of the 5.25 CDC/Imprimis/Seagate disks winding down; as the power 
> finally drops off the spindle brake comes on.  I presume they did this 
> to minimise the wear on the brake pad.

Yup...we have three of those old-style CDCs here, and they all do that. They
don't have brake pads though, from what I've seen; it looks like they just
short the phases together, making an eddy-current brake. The click you hear
when the brake engages is a relay on the motor-drive board, and I would
imagine the braking system has something to do with the drive transistors.
They may well have delayed it to keep the current from frying something,
especially in the full-height drives.

> Head retraction is pretty common too; naturally on removables it's 
> mandatory 8)

Indeed; the first drive I saw that did that was a 44MB SyQuest (which is
sitting in my closet, awaiting a decent SCSI card...).

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