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Date:      Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:24:03 +0100
From:      "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
To:        "Jan Grant" <Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk>
Cc:        "Scott Mitchell" <scott.mitchell@mail.com>, "Wilko Bulte" <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>, "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Time for my first backup, how do I install a DDS drive??
Message-ID:  <009d01c17675$3cf20630$0a00000a@atkielski.com>
References:  <Pine.GSO.4.31.0111261128190.101-100000@mail.ilrt.bris.ac.uk>

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Is there any equivalent to the NTBackup option that verifies an entire backup
immediately after it is written?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan Grant" <Jan.Grant@bristol.ac.uk>
To: "Anthony Atkielski" <anthony@freebie.atkielski.com>
Cc: "Scott Mitchell" <scott.mitchell@mail.com>; "Wilko Bulte"
<wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>; "FreeBSD Questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 12:33
Subject: Re: Time for my first backup, how do I install a DDS drive??


> On Sun, 25 Nov 2001, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
>
> > Wilko hit the problem in a separate e-mail:  I had to have a tape in
> > the drive! Now I'm full of nostalgia--I haven't had to worry about
> > actually mounting tapes on drives since the days when the tape was
> > on an open reel!
> >
> > Anyway, once I put a tape in the drive, the mt command worked fine.
> > Now I need to try my first backup.
> >
> > Some questions that I couldn't find clear answers for, though:
> >
> > 1. Will dump backup files that are locked by readers?  What about
> > files locked by writers?
>
> Yes, and yes. All file locks are advisory, pretty much; this is in
> contrast to NT (where you get the problems you mention).
>
> > 2. If the answer to question 1 is "no," how can I backup the root
> > filesystem or other filesystems that always have some files
> > allocated to someone?
>
> Well, you _can_ just dump them. It depends on what files are open, and
> by what; if you've got a database in a non-quiescent state you might
> want to switch it to journalling-only mode for the duration of the
> backup (or whatever the procedure is for hot backups) and switch it back
> afterwards.
>
> The trick to this is to try some restores while you're getting this
> worked out (to make sure everything you expect to be restored is) - you
> don't need to restore directly to the root, you can stick a copy
> somewhere. And, of course, to run periodic random restores to ensure
> everything is working.*
>
> jan
>
> * You don't need to be told this, of course, but it's worth saying
> anyway.
>
> --
> jan grant, ILRT, University of Bristol. http://www.ilrt.bris.ac.uk/
> Tel +44(0)117 9287088 Fax +44 (0)117 9287112 RFC822 jan.grant@bris.ac.uk
> Theoremhood is positively decidable.
> It just takes time at least exponential in the length of the proof.
>
>


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