Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 15:49:00 +0100 From: "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> To: Daniel Kalchev <daniel@digsys.bg> Cc: Martin Sugioarto <martin@sugioarto.com>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk>, freebsd-performance@FreeBSD.ORG, "O. Hartmann" <ohartman@zedat.fu-berlin.de>, Daniel@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server Message-ID: <4EF5E65C.3060405@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <4EF46829.6010508@digsys.bg> References: <xf5fxrkpagw2qf65tk9y2njf.1324492907631@email.android.com> <4EF25468.9040204@gmail.com> <CAOjFWZ7%2Bx61QPB-cO5ppWwY-nCRFvs9P76H_SO%2BCSL41APLwsA@mail.gmail.com> <CADWvR2jVPkLrM686Xhk12U0poV7CCqB3LF_ZbTPTHFKjt%2BdP=g@mail.gmail.com> <4EF2C613.3020609@digsys.bg> <CADWvR2jQMcOrPEzU5Ug4TRp9hxvD6qOVTZYjqqozarA-%2B-DsQw@mail.gmail.com> <4EF3D68C.2060803@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20111223074706.1afe4d26@zelda.sugioarto.com> <4EF45C85.9010709@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <4EF46829.6010508@digsys.bg>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig863C2B495A6AA626DD82D833 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/23/11 12:38, Daniel Kalchev wrote: >=20 >=20 > On 23.12.11 12:48, O. Hartmann wrote: >> Look at Steve Kargls problem. He investigated a SCHED_ULE problem in a= >> way that is far beyond enough! He gave tests, insights of his setup, >> bad performance compared to SCHED_4BSD and what happend? We are still >> stuck with this problem and more and more people realise, that FreeBSD= >> does have somewhere a problem and this seems to be a nasty problem not= >> easy to find or investigate. >=20 > This has made me to realize, that I was having a problem with SCHED_ULE= > that I was not aware of until now. WOW! :) >=20 > Every scheduler has some problem, some fail here some fail there. I am > confident, that the case that Steve Kargls has reported will be resolve= d. >=20 >> Another problem is this very elite-feeling closed club. Once you >> managed it getting into the club of committers or core team members, >> you'll probably fight for your seat ... I dont propose for that >> socialists crap Linux people tend to be like, > [..] >=20 > You never heard of the "People's Republic of Berkeley"? :) >=20 > As for commiter access, this sort of comments trigger the system > administrator in me. I have seen enough people, who for the lack of > other excuses always use "but I don't have enough RIGHTS!". I am evil, = I > know.... >=20 >> But I follow the illusion that if people can see what benchmarks >> reveal, they start thinking and if the facts are starting to give a >> heavy load load on those rejecting the facts, they migght change their= >> opinion or get hopefully replaced by more openminded people. >=20 > Here is now it works: >=20 > If you see an problem and have a solution: go fix it. Many will be > grateful. > If you can't fix it, but have an idea how to fix it, share it. May will= > be grateful. > If you can't fix it and don't have any idea, just say "there is a > problem" and stop there. There are many, many, many like you who just > hold their breath. >=20 > We all learn, every day. >=20 > Daniel Sorry, but your crap is simply breathtaking. oh --------------enig863C2B495A6AA626DD82D833 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO9eZdAAoJEOgBcD7A/5N83ZwH/RTlnilxJOS4sBMpXduNFg/e LMRsokn+5zwp1EhqNg5HLPSJZbNq3DWm2IrutrPoRBOMAmUt2AYrxnxNu+9sSJwh r7Fvq+1i86sd+B28ngfmV3Xn+Kj7mB72gvxpUt1vlVGkb6viriBlwhG5tEUOwhS/ iSzcBQnEJbmjWnDOv2St1Up0ZV7jrLWW6n9ShUJnl7Nt76InhzQFGdB3YddUYWXX c0sqSzt7Y3y2DFFe5ZuRtyN/Xr2aAgEONhxnig10/ufh5gVWc/7DqGGUuY9zhwmF E6FQ7QPjSYq83aD9aKkKRD+nwenaX4gvsYCAyJUbpA5lIyrVcFk+UADIXC7JdJc= =q9EX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig863C2B495A6AA626DD82D833--
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