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Date:      Sat, 18 May 2013 07:26:05 +0200
From:      "bsd@todoo.biz" <bsd@todoo.biz>
To:        Liste FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: ZFS install on a partition
Message-ID:  <39FA940D-9410-4945-8BFB-EE1354A164AC@todoo.biz>
In-Reply-To: <5FB78660-EDA4-40DB-8A0D-B0DE23A0FB6C@kraus-haus.org>
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Thanks for this documented answer.=20

Couple of comments though=85=20

Le 18 mai 2013 =E0 02:03, Paul Kraus <paul@kraus-haus.org> a =E9crit :

> On May 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, "bsd@todoo.biz" <bsd@todoo.biz> wrote:
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>> I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - =
but unfortunately this is not an option for this server.=20
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> I ran many ZFS pools on top of hardware raid units, because that is =
what we had. It works fine and the NVRAM write cache of the better =
hardware raid systems give you a performance boost.
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>> What would you advise ?=20
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>> 1. Can I use an existing partition and setup ZFS on this partition =
using a standard Zpool (no RAID).=20
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> Sure. Be careful when you say RAID=85 I assume you mean RAIDz<n> =
configured top level vdevs. Remember, a mirror is RAID-1 and the base =
ZFS striping is considered RAID-0. So set it up as plain stripe of one =
vdev :-)

Ok so I'll use a dedicated volume (LUN) and install it as a RAID-0 vdev.=20=


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>> 2. Should I use any other solution in order to setup this (like full =
ZFS install on disk using the entire pool with ZFS).=20
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> If the system is configured with existing LUNS use them.
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>> 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It =
would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions.=20
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> No. One of the biggest benefits of ZFS is the end to end data =
integrity. IF there is a silent fault in the HW RAID (it happens), ZFS =
will detect the corrupt data and note it. If you had a mirror or other =
redundant device, ZFS would then read the data from the *other* copy and =
rewrite the bad block (or mark that physical block bad and use another).
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>> P.S. Stability is a must for this system - so I won't die if you =
answer "3" and tell me to keep on using UFS.=20
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> ZFS is stable, it is NOT as tuned as UFS just due to age. UFS in all =
of it's various incarnations has been tuned far more than any filesystem =
has any right to be. I spent many years managing Solaris system and I =
was truly amazed at how tuned the Solaris version of UFS was.
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> I have been running a number of 9.0 and 9.1 servers in production, all =
running ZFS for both OS and data, with no FS related issues.

Ok - great answer.=20

I have setup a FreeNAS ZFS appliance (running native HBAs + JBOD) and =
used it as a backup solution using snapshots.=20
This is why I wanted to have ZFS at first.=20


If you have any other advise - they are welcome.=20



Thanks a lot.=20

GB.=20


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