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Date:      Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:22:00 -0800
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: ports directories are broken again?
Message-ID:  <20050101012200.GA95056@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20041231235755.GA67655@meer.net>
References:  <20041231190904.GA18620@meer.net> <20041231202929.GA13727@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041231235755.GA67655@meer.net>

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On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 03:57:55PM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 11:09:04AM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > > neptune.sv$ pkg_add -r frontpage
> > > Error: FTP Unable to get ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386=
/packages-5.3-release/Latest/frontpage.tbz: File unavailable (e.g., file no=
t found, no access)
> =20
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 12:29:29PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > frontpage has not been packaged for years because a dependency
> > (compat3x) is forbidden for security reasons.  It looks like your
> > expectations are broken here :)
> =20
> I have no expecation other than that if the freebsd site indicates that a
> package is available, that it should be there.  It provides a link to a
> supposed package, which does not exist.

It provides a link to where the package would be if it exists.  The
web frontend has no knowledge of which packages are available at any
given point in time because this set fluctuates on a daily basis, so
the frontend is always going to have windows where it's out of date
with respect to what's on the ftp site.

One could imagine changing this with some hard work, or at least
improving the documentation, but that's how things are today.  You're
welcome to submit a PR with your suggestion on how to change the
documentation to annotate this.

> And your comment of "for years" makes no sense when applied to versions of
> the OS which haven't existed for more than a few months.  (not that it
> isn't true, but it certainly defies basic logic, no?)

No, the ports tree is independent of the version of FreeBSD you're
running.  No version of FreeBSD has been able to produce a package of
frontpage for a long time, because the package is not buildable in the
underlying ports collection.

Kris
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