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Date:      Thu, 19 Aug 2010 09:01:28 +0200
From:      Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
To:        Gabor Kovesdan <gabor@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "arch@freebsd.org" <arch@FreeBSD.org>, Rui Paulo <rpaulo@FreeBSD.org>, "current@freebsd.org" <current@FreeBSD.org>, Garrett Cooper <gcooper@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: Removal of ICC (intel compiler) bits from mk
Message-ID:  <20100819090128.22597bbvyogdw9wk@webmail.leidinger.net>
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Quoting Gabor Kovesdan <gabor@FreeBSD.org> (from Wed, 18 Aug 2010  
19:56:01 +0200):

>  Em 2010.08.18. 19:37, Rui Paulo escreveu:
>> On 18 Aug 2010, at 18:18, Garrett Cooper wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Rui Paulo<rpaulo@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I've been chatting with the ICC ex-users and they seem to be ok  
>>>> with the removal of the ICC bits from share/mk and other places.
>>>> The reason is that it doesn't work and no one has volunteered to  
>>>> fix it for many years. This seems to indicate that the interest  
>>>> in ICC is low.
>>>> If there's anyone against this, speak now or forever be silent. :-)
>>>    Later versions of icc are more gcc compliant aren't they? If so,
>>> wouldn't this also be a non-issue to remove the bits, or are there
>>> still some incompatibilities between gcc and icc that are worth
>>> noting?
>> I really don't know how compatible is the latest icc because no one  
>> ever updated the ports version. This is actually a hint that no one  
>> really uses this anymore.
> IIRC, apart from the low interest, the problem was that because of  
> ICC's license using ICC to test this mk stuff requires a commercial  
> license because somehow it is considered a derivative work. It has

If we wanted to ship binaries, we would have to compile them with the  
commercial license.

> also prevented us from providing better support. In 2006, I wanted  
> to do some progress as part of my SoC project because that time  
> there was more interest. Alexander (CC'd) may comment on this. I  
> think he has a license for FreeBSD work but he is not allowed to  
> give it out to a third party.

At some point I got a license (IIRC for 2-users) which could have been  
installed in the cluster, but this would have meant to install a  
license server somewhere. The license was also the only commercial  
license I had which would have allowed to run the amd64... ehrm...  
em64t version of icc. This was for icc 9.x and I have some doubts this  
license will work with icc 11.x.

If someone would get icc 11.x up and runnig as a port (similar to what  
we have for outdated icc version in the ports collection), I would  
have a look if my contact at Intel is still working there in a  
position which allows him to get a commercial license for us.

Bye,
Alexander.

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