Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 14:05:15 -0400 From: Doug Lee <dgl@dlee.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Empty AUTH=<> in SMTP from Mutt message causing refused mail Message-ID: <20030908180515.GK73789@kirk.dlee.org> In-Reply-To: <20030908174039.3672.qmail@letric.mygirlfriday.info> References: <20030908162559.GG73789@kirk.dlee.org> <20030908163741.3451.qmail@letric.mygirlfriday.info> <20030908164646.GH73789@kirk.dlee.org> <20030908170031.3551.qmail@letric.mygirlfriday.info> <20030908170815.GJ73789@kirk.dlee.org> <20030908174039.3672.qmail@letric.mygirlfriday.info>
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On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 12:40:39PM -0500, Gary wrote: > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 01:08:15PM -0400 or thereabouts, Doug Lee wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 12:00:31PM -0500, Gary wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 12:46:46PM -0400 or thereabouts, Doug Lee wrote: > > > > > > MAIL From:<dlee@bart.bartsite.com> AUTH=<> > > > > > > whereas mail generated from Pine or a Windows mailer looks like > > > > > > MAIL From:<dlee@bart.bartsite.com> > > > > > > In other words, the "AUTH=<>" only appears in Mutt-generated mail. > > > > > > > > set sendmail = "/usr/sbin/sendmail -f "lee@bart.bartsite.com"" > > > > > > > No, and I just tried sending without a .muttrc file at all, and I got > > > > the same error back from the WebShielded site. > > > > > > The above in your .muttrc file would set your envelope sender to the > > > above address. > > > > > > last thought, do you have a from address in your .muttrc file? > > > > > > my_hdr From: Doug <lee@bart.bartsite.com> > > > No, but as I said in my last message, I tested the whole .muttrc > > possibility just now by disabling (renaming) my .muttrc and running > > Mutt afresh without a .muttrc in effect at all. Same error. > > testing or disabling your .muttrc is absolutely meaningless to me since I > am not privy if the above lines are included in there to begin with, which > is why I suggested this first line approach to begin with. Your lack of > info caused me to speculate. Lack of info admitted; I was initially not sure what info would be required. I sorta started out asking how Mutt could affect the contents of a From: line in an SMTP stream (beyond the address on that line, that is) and ended up (in my latest message) covering the whole three-element situation. Sorry for any confusion. These are the lines that look potentially relevant from my .muttrc: set edit_hdrs # let me edit the message header when composing set editor="vi '+/^$/'" # start below header set hdrs # include `my_hdr' lines in outgoing messages set noheader # include message header when replying set from="dgl@dlee.org" set realname="Doug Lee" set use_from # always generate the `From:' header field set noreverse_realname # Override the real name with the realname variable set dsn_notify='failure,delay' # when to return an error message set dsn_return=hdrs # what to return in the error message my_hdr Organization: Bartimaeus Group I don't remember which of these (if any) is just reestablishing default behavior, but these lines were not in effect during the .muttrcless test. > > By now I'm fairly sure this is related to my having started to set up > > SMTP authorization on both FreeBSD systems. This doesn't explain, > > though, why only Mutt-generated mail is affected, particularly with no > > .muttrc in effect. Pine mail sends out fine to this site. > > this is the first time you mentioned that you have previously set up, or > attempted to set up SMTP auth. > > > So I see it as a three-pronged problem: (1) WebShield refuses From: > > lines containing "AUTH=<>", and WebShield just went into effect at the > > destination site; (2) my SMTP installation probably sometimes sends > > the "AUTH=<>" line because I started configuring that a while back > > (months ago); and (3) Mutt and somehow ONLY Mutt triggers the sending > > of the "AUTH=<>" on From: lines. > > why is your auth sending a null value? Webshield could be hanging on this, My first question exactly. :-) Thanks much for your help so far. > yes, or I agree with you regarding the other 2 possibilities. > > > I hope to identify how (3) can be happening, then maybe if (2) can or > > should be fixed or if "AUTH=<>" is supposed to be legal SMTP syntax on > > a From: line, and finally whether the destination site is likely to be > > refusing much mail as a result of their WebShield installation. > > To my knowledge, no, and I have never seen "Auth" included on the From: > line, it is on a separate line, and yes, something is broken. My > experience with sendmail ends here, as I have not used it in years, but > moved on to qmail. Sorry I could not have been more help. > > -- > Gary -- Doug Lee dgl@dlee.org http://www.dlee.org Bartimaeus Group doug@bartsite.com http://www.bartsite.com "The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself." --Benjamin Franklin
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