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Date:      Thu, 27 May 2010 10:26:49 +0200
From:      Coert <lgroups@waagmeester.co.za>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: portsnap and portupgrade question
Message-ID:  <4BFE2CC9.6060307@waagmeester.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <20100527084648.fa31f064.freebsd@edvax.de>
References:  <4BFE0FFE.4060103@waagmeester.co.za> <20100527084648.fa31f064.freebsd@edvax.de>

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Polytropon wrote:
> On Thu, 27 May 2010 08:23:58 +0200, Coert <lgroups@waagmeester.co.za> wrote:
>> First I completed the freebsd-update
>> Then I ran portupgrade -av
>> Then I ran portsnap.
> 
> It's a bit confusing to me. Why do you first update your installed
> ports, then the ports database? I would thing it would make more
> sense in reverse order, i. e.
> 
> 	1. freebsd-update
> 	   This updates your operating system in binary way.
> 
> 	2. portsnap
> 	   This brings your ports tree up to date
> 
> 	3. portupgrade -av
> 	   This updates your installed ports.
> 
> If you don't have much ports installed, or when you're just
> beginning to install a system, perform steps 1 and 2 first,
> then install portupgrade (or portmaster, another great tool),
> and then install everything else. This way you will receive
> the latest versions of the ports. If you wish to upgrade your
> installed system, perform steps 1, 2 and 3 in the proper manner.
> 
> 
> 
>> When I decided what to make PACKAGESITE I picked 8.0-RELEASE (not STABLE 
>> or CURRENT).
> 
> As you updated your system with freebsd-update to follow the
> -RELEASE-p- branch, this is valid.
> 
> 
> 
>> Now here is my question.
>> After I ran portsnap fetch extract, I ran portupgrade and got quite a 
>> fright. What does portsnap want to download? 8.0-RELEASE or STABLE?
> 
> The portsnap program does usually download the latest version of
> the ports collection. Remember that ports do always get updated,
> there basically is no -RELEASE, -STABLE or -CURRENT branch for the
> ports as it is for the OS.
> 
> 
> 
>> I did not mirror the ports because that would be really big, so it will 
>> cost me a lot of time to upgrade with portupgrade.
> 
> The ports tree itself is not that big - but installed applications
> can be. A portupgrade -av call would only upgrade your installed
> packages, not all that exist in ports tree.
> 
> 
> 
>> Is there a way to do this with the binary packages instead? Or am I 
>> doing something wrong?
> 
> Yes, see the excellent documentation in "man portupgrade": There
> are the -P and -PP switches (and -p might be interesting to you,
> too, to store and maybe transfer upgraded packages to other
> systems).
> 
> Additionally, there's pkg_add -r to install binary packages. You
> can either install Latest or those refering to -RELEASE, depending
> on what PACKAGESITE or PACKAGEROOT are set; refer to "man pkg_add"
> for a better explaination.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Hello Polytropon,

The order of operations makes sense. I ran it that way now

I checked the man page, and the -PP option is indeed what I am looking for.

What I do see though, portupgrade is attempting to download the STABLE 
packages and not RELEASE.

I have read nearly all of Chapter 24, and I looked at Chapter 4 as well.
And I have scrunged through portsnap and portupgrade's man pages, but I 
can not yet find a way to force it to use RELEASE.

I apologize if this is maybe a stupid noob thing....

Should I maybe not have used portsnap, so as to keep to ports tree that 
came with the release?

Is there a way to get the original release ports tree back?

Or should I maybe just be using STABLE?

Here is what I get when I run portupgrade -PPanv

--->  Checking for the latest package of 'net/rsync'
--->  Found a package of 'net/rsync': 
/var/packages/FreeBSD/8.0-release-i386/Latest/rsync.tbz (rsync-3.0.6)
--->  Fetching the package(s) for 'rsync-3.0.7' (net/rsync)
--->  Fetching rsync-3.0.7
++ Will try the following sites in the order named:
         ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org//pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/
--->  Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o 
'/var/tmp/portupgradeINlbeDr0/rsync-3.0.7.tbz' 
'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/All/rsync-3.0.7.tbz'
fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/All/rsync-3.0.7.tbz: 
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 1
** Failed to fetch 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/All/rsync-3.0.7.tbz
--->  Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o 
'/var/tmp/portupgradeINlbeDr0/rsync-3.0.7.tgz' 
'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/All/rsync-3.0.7.tgz'
fetch: 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/All/rsync-3.0.7.tgz: 
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
** The command returned a non-zero exit status: 1
** Failed to fetch 
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/All/rsync-3.0.7.tgz
** Failed to fetch rsync-3.0.7
--->  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
         ! rsync-3.0.7   (fetch error)
--->  Packages processed: 0 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed
--->  Fetching the latest package(s) for 'rsync' (net/rsync)
--->  Fetching rsync
++ Will try the following sites in the order named:
         ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org//pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/
--->  Invoking a command: /usr/bin/fetch -o 
'/var/tmp/portupgradeDlJGIGWL/rsync.tbz' 
'ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.0-release/Latest/rsync.tbz'
/var/tmp/portupgradeDlJGIGWL/rsync.tbz        100% of  252 kB   33 kBps
--->  Downloaded as rsync.tbz
--->  Identifying the package /var/tmp/portupgradeDlJGIGWL/rsync.tbz
--->  Saved as /usr/ports/packages/All/rsync-3.0.6.tbz
--->  Listing the results (+:done / -:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
         + rsync@
--->  Packages processed: 1 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 0 failed
--->  Found a package of 'net/rsync': 
/var/packages/FreeBSD/8.0-release-i386/Latest/rsync.tbz (rsync-3.0.6)
--->  Located a package version 3.0.6 
(/var/packages/FreeBSD/8.0-release-i386/Latest/rsync.tbz)
** Ignoring the package, which is the same version as is installed (3.0.6)
** No package available: net/rsync


Thanks for all your time and patience,
Coert




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