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Date:      Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:13:58 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
Cc:        ports@freebsd.org, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com>, Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com>
Subject:   Re: Overly restrictive checks in the make process
Message-ID:  <20070726171358.GA56272@rot26.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <20070721062053.91dd23bb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
References:  <20070720085855.99fb2109.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20070720160749.54fec301.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20070721023933.GB24593@soaustin.net> <200707201950.21868.kstewart@owt.com> <20070721062053.91dd23bb.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>

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On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 06:20:53AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> Kent Stewart <kstewart@owt.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Friday 20 July 2007, Mark Linimon wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 04:07:49PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
> > > > Even better would be for make to realize that it's only doing the
> > > > fetching, and do it anyway.
> > >
> > > That still doesn't help with the problem of a user who starts a 10MB
> > > download that won't work on his architecture or OS release.  The code
> > > is all the same.  This is the aggravation we are trying to prevent.
> > 
> > That still doesn't address the concern or improve the system downtime 
> > that a pkg_delete, make install allows. If you can't run something, you 
> > don't have any downtime but to have to pkg_delete before you start the 
> > tarball fetch can be really long on some ports.
> 
> It's certainly a tradeoff.  Either way you do it, there are practical
> scenarios where a user is inconvenienced.
> 
> Perhaps an environmental override is the best route.  NO_IGNORE=yes
> or something similar?

Yes, use the NO_IGNORE variable (which just passed its tenth birthday)
to override IGNORE checks you disagree with.

Kris



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