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Date:      Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:59:43 -0800
From:      Don Lewis <Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com>
To:        Andreas Klemm <andreas@klemm.gtn.com>, Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com>, Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Small, useful tools (Was: Re: 'cpdup' program, and question)
Message-ID:  <199901262359.PAA21485@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com>
In-Reply-To: Andreas Klemm <andreas@klemm.gtn.com> "Re: Small, useful tools (Was: Re: 'cpdup' program, and question)" (Jan 26,  7:28pm)

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On Jan 26,  7:28pm, Andreas Klemm wrote:
} Subject: Re: Small, useful tools (Was: Re: 'cpdup' program, and question)
} On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 08:14:16PM +0200, Mark Murray wrote:
} > Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

} > > I think I would support tcp_wrappers in FreeBSD, if it wasn't because
} > > our current modus operandi for src/contrib suffers in so many ways.
} > > <Trigger Who="Jordan" Keyword="New package system">  As things stand
} > > I think it is better left as a port.
} > 
} > Tcp_wrappers are small enough to bmake directly. Trivial job.
} 
} I'd second this with respect to FreeBSD getting an entry
} in the ,hall of fames' of "Ultra secure" BSD's ;-)

Including something like tcp_wrappers in the base system also makes it
easier to build various parts of the base system with tcp_wrappers linked
in.  This gets a lot messier if tcp_wrappers is a port, since you'd still
have to include any include files and a stub library in the base system
if you wanted to avoid recompiling the base system after building the port.
I can't think of any ways for a new package system to improve this, other
than if it included wrapped versions of the base system applications in
the package.

Another example of this which I've encountered is Hesiod support.  I've
had to import the Hesiod library into the base system in our local source
tree.

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