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Date:      Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:55:28 +0100
From:      nclayton@lehman.com
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Security Ceritfication for individuals
Message-ID:  <19990603105528.T22307@lehman.com>
In-Reply-To: <3755710C.C32B06F4@softweyr.com>; from Wes Peters on Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:59:40AM -0600
References:  <199906020817.MAA31586@paranoid.eltex.spb.ru> <37556EAB.6101B755@softweyr.com> <3755710C.C32B06F4@softweyr.com>

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On Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 11:59:40AM -0600, Wes Peters wrote:
> Wes Peters wrote:
> > I just poked around the Tekmetrics web site, and it looks pretty good.
> > If anyone is interested in creating FreeBSD certifications, as a
> > programmer, system administrator, or security administrator, working
> > with Tekmetrics to make FreeBSD-specific versions of their generic
> > UNIX exams would be a good starting point.
> > 
> >         http://www.tekmetrics.com/    (duh!)
> 
> This topic came up in the -security mailing list, but is related to
> an occasional discussion here in -advocacy.  Tekmetrics has a "reseller" 
> program, where you can sell their certification tests on your own web 
> site.  This would certainly be appropriate for the FreeBSD Mall and 
> any other vendor of FreeBSD-related good or services.
> 
> If possible, I'd like for several of the -advocates to surf over there,
> look at the trial tests, and perhaps take the UNIX programmer or UNIX
> system administrator test as their free test, to get a feeling if this
> is something we'd like to pursue.

I've just done this;

    Congratulations! You passed at the Master's Level with a score of 
    4.46. You are now a Certified Master Unix Administrator.

<homer>Whoo hoo</homer>

I receive the certificate in 4-6 weeks apparently.

It's a 40 question multiple choice test (5 choices per question).  You get
180 seconds per question (Javascript controlled) and most of the answers
would easily be found in the man pages.

I'm not sure of the overall value.  I now get to put links to 

     http://www.tekmetrics.com/transcript.shtml?pid=26428

anywhere I want (so be looking out for a commit to www/en/index.sgml soon
:-) ) which is nice.  In my experience as a contractor I'm not sure if this
counts for much, as the vast majority of companies will have their own 
Unix tests that they give you at the first or second interview.  And this
web one is trivially easy to cheat on, just by making sure you've got 
access to a set of Unix manual pages.

The majority of the test applies to FreeBSD.  There are a couple of 
questions in there that are SysV-ish, like

               K30tcp  K70cron        S15preserve   S50rpc      
               K40nfs  K99inet        S30tcp        S70cron 
               K50rpc  S01MOUNTOFSYS  S40nfs 

    During shutdown, which prefixes in the sample code directory list 
    above are of interest? 

    Choice 1 All S's
    Choice 2 All K's
    Choice 3 K99  S99
    Choice 4 K30  S30  K50  K70  K70  S70
    Choice 5 S01MOUNTOFSYS

which could be replaced by questions about /etc/rc.conf and friends.

I don't think there's any reason why we couldn't pursue this, as I don't
think there's a cost to the project as a whole.

However, one thing that might be worth thinking about.  Roughly 6 months
ago I approached -core about the Amazon and Barnes and Noble partnership
programs.  My idea was to put links to the appropriate books from the 
Handbook bibliography on the site, and get a percentage of the revenue from
any links via the bibliography.  -core decided this was not a good idea,
which is fair enough.

This reseller-test program works along the same lines, so -core may have 
the same objections.

N
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