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Date:      Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:12:06 +0100
From:      Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>
To:        Isaac Mushinsky <itz@mushinsky.net>
Cc:        Yuri Pankov <yuri.pankov@gmail.com>, freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: amd64 platform newbie -- what video card for x11?
Message-ID:  <20080305061206.GA18748@slackbox.xs4all.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200803050032.17324.itz@mushinsky.net>
References:  <200803042252.13008.itz@mushinsky.net> <200803042347.22771.itz@mushinsky.net> <20080305045851.GB14420@mail.irbisnet.ru> <200803050032.17324.itz@mushinsky.net>

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On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:32:16AM -0500, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:

> You seem to be patient indeed, is there any indication that nvidia will e=
ver=20
> release an amd64 driver?=20

IIRC, NVidia has requested some changes to the FreeBSD kernel. I'm not
sure if or when those will be implemented. Maybe ask the hackers@ list.

IMHO this is the wrong way to go about things. Binary only drivers can
be a PITA. The FreeBSD team cannot debug or support them. Only the
vendors can. And for them, FreeBSD-amd64 must be the niche of a niche
market. If kernel internal interfaces change, you'll have to wait until
a new driver is released by the vendor.

I suspect that most binary drivers are recompiled windows drivers with a
FreeBSD wrapper. Given the average quality of windows driver, the
question is do you want something like that in your kernel?

> Google shows years of empty rallying and petitions.=20
> Very much like the adobe/flash9 situation. It seems that ATI cards have=
=20
> better support now.

Since ATI was acquired by AMD, they seem to have begun releasing more
documentation.  For more information check the Xorg/freedesktop websites
and mailing lists.

It seems that ATI and Intel are now the best wrt releasing documentation
so that free/open source drivers can be written.

Roland
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R.F.Smith                                   http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/
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