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Date:      Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:25:31 -0600
From:      Joe.Warner@smed.com
To:        Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, magus@magus.users.xmission.com
Subject:   Re: BSD v. Unix
Message-ID:  <85256918.004F1A18.00@Deimos.smed.com>

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> I don't remember where exactly, but I have seen FreeBSD referred to as
> the "last true Unix."  Is this a wholly accurate description?

No.  I don't think it's even partially accurate for any reasonable
definition of "partially".  Recall that it shares no code with AT&T
UNIX up to and including the Seventh Edition.

     Greg,

         Please don't take this personally or view this as critisism but I
recently purchased your book, "The Complete FreeBSD", and what an excellent
book it is!  8^)  After reading the preface, I was under the impression
that FreeBSD is a raw UNIX system and has greater rights to call itself
UNIX than OS's like Linux because it's not a UNIX clone.  I will quote from
the preface: "FreeBSD is a high-performance operating system derived from
the Berkeley Software Distribution, or BSD, the version of UNIX developed
at the University of California at Berkeley between 1975 and 1993.  FreeBSD
is not a UNIX clone.  Historically and technically, it has greater rights
than UNIX System V to be called UNIX  Legally, it may not be called UNIX,
since UNIX is now a registered trade mark of The Open Group.
     Can you expand on this?  Am I missing the mark on this?  Were you
saying that FreeBSD can still be called UNIX but not the "last true UNIX"?

Joe



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On Saturday,  8 July 2000 at  2:12:31 -0600, Anthony Chavez wrote:
> Fellow advocates:
>
> I don't remember where exactly, but I have seen FreeBSD referred to as
> the "last true Unix."  Is this a wholly accurate description?

No.  I don't think it's even partially accurate for any reasonable
definition of "partially".  Recall that it shares no code with AT&T
UNIX up to and including the Seventh Edition.

> Would it be correct to refer to *BSD in such a manner?

No.  In fact, we don't want to refer to "*BSD" at all: it sounds
divisive.  BSD without the '*' looks a lot better.

As to "the last true UNIX": that way Holy Wars lie.  I've most often
heard it applied to the Seventh Edition.

Greg
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