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Date:      Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:59:04 +0900 (JST)
From:      Hiroki Sato <hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp>
To:        mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org
Cc:        setantae@submonkey.net, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: docs/35155: [PATCH] Misc corrections to the Handbook, chapter 2
Message-ID:  <20020222.085904.28781226.hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp>
In-Reply-To: <20020221170951.B30225@blackhelicopters.org>
References:  <200202202000.g1KK08V36428@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020221115732.GA575@rhadamanth> <20020221170951.B30225@blackhelicopters.org>

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Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org> wrote
  in <20020221170951.B30225@blackhelicopters.org>:

mwlucas> Many of our translation teams speak/read very poor English, and
mwlucas> reducing whitespace changes in commits is their single biggest
mwlucas> request.  If you don't wrap this line in the same commit, the
mwlucas> translator just has to evaluate one line for changes.  With the wrap,
mwlucas> they must evaluate three.  Eliminating these whitespace diffs reduces
mwlucas> their workload for this operation by 66%.  While this is easy for us,
mwlucas> people who don't even use our alphabet, let alone speak English
mwlucas> natively, will have a very hard time of it.

 Thank you for your explanation.  I think recognizing that as a problem
 may be difficult for English writers.  Some people I contacted before
 (those are responsible for a certain documentation project which is not
 related to FreeBSD) did not accept this rule, and seemed to think
 the separation as a bore.

mwlucas> There was a whole presentation about this at BSDCon, where one of the
mwlucas> Japanese -doc translators said, in a very polite way, "Please, please,
mwlucas> please don't do this!"  (I don't think that that presentation is
mwlucas> on-line yet, but it should be soon.)  The presenter was Japanese, and
mwlucas> spoke very poor English, yet thought it was important enough to get up
mwlucas> in front of us and talk through it.

 You can download the paper from the following location:
 http://www.usenix.org/events/bsdcon02/tech.htm
 (but to access papers from conferences of less than a year ago,
  you will need your USENIX membership.)

 I am learning English conversation, but it is hard for me
 (perhaps as you feel it hard to learn Japanese).  I hope I'll be
 able to talk to you at the meeting like BSDCon in the future.

 Thank you.

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| Hiroki Sato  <hrs@FreeBSD.org>
|              <hrs@eos.ocn.ne.jp>

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