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Date:      Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:38:01 +0200
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        "David E. Cross" <crossd@cs.rpi.edu>
Cc:        freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Where's the -core? 
Message-ID:  <19786.931793881@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:34:27 EDT." <199907121434.KAA82305@cs.rpi.edu> 

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Well, -smp is certainly not the place to discuss "it", nomatter
what "it" is, unless SMP related.

(I must admit that at this point I'm not even sure what we're 
discussing here.)

As far as I know there is no "dark side of core" (fnord!), so if
people would just concentrate on the task at hand:  Making FreeBSD
the best UNIX ever, then we would all be much happier.

The way to gain influence in FreeBSD is to contribute good code,
whining, and pointing out "secret international eric^H^H^H^Hcore
conspirations" isn't doing anybody any good.

Maybe we should have a freebsd-conspiracy maillist for those things.

I'm increasingly getting the feeling that while Linux is the "Can
Do" community, FreeBSD is the "Somebody Should Do" community, and
quite frankly, being "somebody" is not a very interesting career.

Poul-Henning
Speaking neither as nor for the The FreeBSD Core team.

In message <199907121434.KAA82305@cs.rpi.edu>, "David E. Cross" writes:
>Before I cast my vote on this issue, I would really wish that the 
>members of core who have strong opinions on this issue would come
>forward and talk about them in a public forum.  The only thing I
>have seen from core (I am on -hackers, -current, and -smp) is second
>and third hand from other developers.  I do not believe that core is
>unaware of this current conversation, and I would appreciate it if they
>came forward.  As it stands now we certainly appear to have "the dark
>side of core" and all other problems notwithstanding this one must be
>addressed first.  We need these lines of communication open.
>
>--
>David Cross                               | email: crossd@cs.rpi.edu 
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>Department of Computer Science            | Fax: 518.276.4033
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phk@FreeBSD.ORG               "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far!


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