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Date:      Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:54:00 -0700 (MST)
From:      Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
To:        brianc@milkyway.com (Brian Campbell)
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Pentium II?
Message-ID:  <199707302054.NAA05832@phaeton.artisoft.com>
In-Reply-To: <19970730144420.16698@milkyway.com> from "Brian Campbell" at Jul 30, 97 02:44:20 pm

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> > Actually, these are the same people who said I could get a
> > 486 DX/2-100, and thus convinced me to buy my 486 DX-50.
> 
> Can't now, or couldn't ever?

It was announced, in almost the same format as this 266 announcement
that was referenced.  Do not believe announcements; believe only
shrink-wrapped packages which you can touch.


> I used to have a DX4, and did manage to get it to boot at 2*50, but my
> graphics and scsi cards didn't like that much.  I know at least one
> other person that claims to keep his DX4 running at 2*50.

One wonders how he managed to change his clock multiplier on
board the chip from the mask-programmed value of "3"... 8-).

For video, he should run an S3 chipset board, which is more
tolerant of bus overclocking than the nasty Mach-32/64 chipsets;
the only boards in my bus-overclocked EISA machine are an S3
graphics board and an AHA1742B.


> > My 486 DX-50 still beats the snot of of a P5 DX/2-66, and is
> > more than fast enough (EISA bus overclocked to 50MHz) to handle
> > a lot of stuff that early P5 machines couldn't.
> 
> Hmmm ... Never heard of a P5 DX/2-66  ;-)

Dell was selling them.  This was back when they were using the
Saturn I chipset, which did not have DMA writeback notification
connected from the macrocell (missing trace).

Clock-doubled 66 MHz Pentiums were at one time common, before
CPU fans became common.  Dell also had 60MHz non-doubled chips
available before the doubled 66's were available.  The non-doubled
60's kicked butt over the doubled 66's for anything I/O bound.
Just as my 486/50 kicks butt over the same chips.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
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