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Date:      Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:25:49 +0100
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Jeremie Le Hen <jeremie@le-hen.org>
Cc:        Todorov <todorov@paladin.bulgarpress.com>, freebsd-performance@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: SMP & HTT on 6.3 (P4)
Message-ID:  <47B4172D.3040307@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080214094011.GA92006@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org>
References:  <47A79ADA.9050900@paladin.bulgarpress.com> <20080214094011.GA92006@obiwan.tataz.chchile.org>

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Jeremie Le Hen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 01:08:10AM +0200, Todorov wrote:
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>>  Hi,
>>  what do you think for HyperThreading (P4 GHz), which serves FBSD 6.3?
>>  Now it's disabled by the BIOS but since today I've upgraded the machine
>>  5.5 to 6.3 though if under 6.XX series it worths or not.
>>
>>  I've read for performance penalties under 5.XX series w/ HTT on. I'm not
>>  going to change to ULE (it's said to be better for HTT awareness).
> 
> ULE is broken on RELENG_6.  Forget it.  If you really want ULE, you'll
> have to upgrade to RELENG_7.
> 
> Regarding HTT, I haven't heard of any performance improvement with HTT
> on FreeBSD.  The scheduler have to be aware of it because HTT processors
> share the same cache lines (including L1).  Unenlightened scheduling
> leads to an increase of cache miss (42% according [1]).  This is not the
> case on any FreeBSD branch currently.  Nonetheless Jeff Roberson is
> working on a CPU topology-aware scheduler implementation [2] but this is
> not even in -CURRENT yet.  It will probably ends up in RELENG_8.

Actually with ULE in 7.0 it often seems to help on the workloads I have 
tested.  This is probably because ULE has much better CPU affinity so 
processes don't bounce around between CPU threads so much.

The bottom line with HTT has really always been: try it on your workload 
and measure whether or not it helps.

Kris




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