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Date:      Tue, 18 Jun 2002 17:06:39 +0200
From:      Christophe Prevotaux <c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr>
To:        Lars Eggert <larse@ISI.EDU>
Cc:        net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: IPIP (kind of) with Payload Encryption only
Message-ID:  <20020618170639.3754910d.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr>
In-Reply-To: <3D0F4AFA.3000908@isi.edu>
References:  <20020618153956.2a9352fa.c.prevotaux@hexanet.fr> <200206181352.g5IDqqnq047326@whizzo.transsys.com> <3D0F4AFA.3000908@isi.edu>

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I can use AH/ESP however since I am using a satellite link
thru a modem/hub(NOC) that fiddles around with packets in order
to optimize them , I can't encrypt the headers otherwise the 
optimizer can't see inside the packets and therefore can't see the
headers , so no optimization is done ,and I end up with a 33,6Kbps
like speed for the VPN , which is useless (at best 56Kbps).

SKIP seems like a goes solution, I am going to look at it and see what
it does.


On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 08:00:10 -0700
Lars Eggert <larse@ISI.EDU> wrote:

> Louis A. Mamakos wrote:
> >>
> >>Could someone tell me if there is a way to build a VPN(like) tunnel from
> >>a FreeBSD machine acting as a VPN gateway to another machine acting as
> >>another VPN gateway using normal IP packets that have only their data
> >>payload encrypted. Of course there would have to be a way to setup the
> >>tunnel and still retain the network addressing of each side of the VPN
> > 
> > 
> > Look at vtun in /usr/ports/net/vtun to see if this can address your
> > problem.  I use it over a (cable modem) network that seems to 
> > filter IPSEC traffic.
> 
> Too bad you can't use IPsec, this seems like the perfect scenario for it.
> 
> I've also used vtun in such a scenario, and can second that it'll work 
> UNLESS you need your tunnel to go through a NAT box - vtun uses the 
> client's IP address during its authentication handshake (which is dumb, 
> since stronger shared secrets need be in place anyway.)
> 
> Archie's daemonnews article has an example of how to do UDP tunneling 
> with netgraph, which nets about a 2x performance improvement over vtun 
> (without encryption, haven't figured out how tie in ng_mppc).
> 
> Lars
> -- 
> Lars Eggert <larse@isi.edu>           USC Information Sciences Institute
> 


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